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    Kill or Fix Crossworld Visiting Please before this game becomes WOW

    At first it was cool / neat / something new..

    Now we are discovering that not every server is like ours -

    1. First Market Boards: Because I can buy on any server on my datacenter, I now have to use outside websites to see lowest prices to sell anything on my home server Or Visit every server on my datacenter checking the MB for each item. If you don’t and you’re not the lowest nothing will sell.

    2. The server I play on is/was nice: Servers spend years building a community that respect each other and plays well together. Making friends and gathering together for Hunts etc. Now what we are finding out is many other servers have a WOW mentality or are gaining one fast and could care less about server etiquette. They come to our home worlds and wait for people to spawn S ranks and kill them before the people who spawn them have a chance to reach them. They come to our servers and run SB Hunt trains and don't announce to any Cross-world LS or any LS on the server they are killing on. They do this because they are watching outside website timers and could care less about the folks on that server or that log on in the evenings and are trying participate in Hunts or other activities on times.

    3. Server Lag and such: Massive amounts of people fluctuating to each server causes lag. On Hunts if your machine or internet isn't top notch now the Marks don't even load in before they are dead. We are getting Que times to log into our home servers now.

    4. There is no point: What is happening is a total disruption on the Markets and Communities. When someone comes over to my home world and runs a Hunt for example people try to be polite and ask them to announce or even wait for others and they are given rude responses if they get a response at all. I see no benefit to it other then if you are Hunting S ranks and you are willing to sit at the Aetheryte all day jumping servers. I do see a select few people setting up and running Housing server tours – but that is a very select few.

    In the end Crossword visiting is doing more harm then good. Its killing peoples game play and fun. People are on the servers they are on because they like the communities and the way things run there. Opening up crossword visiting has made it to where I’m forced to put up with every WOW mentally player from other servers that I never wanted to visit or be apart of in the first place. if I want to get away for toxic servers/datacenters now, I have to transfer to a new datacenter.

    If Crossworld visiting is to stay then SE please throw in some control mechanisms to deter the WOW mentality players.

    1. Stop Markerboard access/Trading for Wanders.
    2. Put a five-minute timer on S Rank Spawns before they can be damaged/Killed.
    3. Fix rendering lag/priority on Hunt Marks.
    4. Give Home server players logging on/transferring too priority over wanders.

    Just my two cents …
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    Last edited by GoofyBoots; 05-29-2019 at 02:25 AM.

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    Consider canceling your sub? Because I know of a lot more people enjoying the new MB. Yoshi has explained this change. New era, new player experience times.

    Hunts though, those just need a rework in general. Cross world didnt stop 70's from soloing ARR S ranks.
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    They won't remove it, or change it.

    For cerberus, at least for myself, using the marketboard to sell things has come to a full stop. What previously netted me 200k-300k every couple of days for a couple of hours work, now gets me less than 70k for the same amount of work. Hard to get materials that previously sold for 100k at least, now tend to be found at 40k or less.

    Personally, I'm not bothering to sell anything anymore, why bother if the amount of work I put in isn't properly rewarded? Less than 70k for a couple hours of work isn't rewarding, it's insulting.

    I have enough gil that I don't need anymore of it, and I won't need anymore for quite some time. I'm just off the market when it comes to providing the raw materials, which I used to provide quite a lot of.
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    If you don’t and you’re not the lowest nothing will sell.
    This is provably false.

    If you're selling things significantly high in expense, you probably do.

    If you're selling things that get used in significant quantity, or are cheaper, you absolutely do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Consider canceling your sub? Because I know of a lot more people enjoying the new MB. Yoshi has explained this change. New era, new player experience times.

    Hunts though, those just need a rework in general. Cross world didnt stop 70's from soloing ARR S ranks.
    -And there it is typical WOW Mentality player surfaces within minutes of the post -thank you for providing the needed example.
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    Desia Demarseille
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    The thing about x-world is that it will balance economies over the long haul across servers. This is probably for the best overall, because big and small servers had issues when it comes to gil. Items can be cheaper or over inflated in certain cases due to server population size. If its expensive on your server, going to another to get the same item would be in your own interest.

    It will also, in theory, balance out server populations. If your server is over populated and you cant get things like a house, moving to a lower pop server might be better for you or your FC. Particularly if you can still move about your datacenter, there becomes less a reason to stick to a particular server in favor of smaller/less populated ones.

    Not sure about he server lag issue. Giving priority to people who have it as their home server does make sense though.

    The hunts thing is a matter of just joining player made discords that track this stuff (which already existed). I GUESS if they really want to balance that issue out, they could have it where when an S Rank spawns, there's a 5 minute window where people who are OFF SERVER cant attack it, but on server people can. Once it's been attacked by on server people, however, anyone can attack it, regardless of that timer.
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    Not a WoW player (although I dabbled a bit years ago) and most of the cross world stuff is pretty positive. As mentioned the hunts seem to be the main concern for a number of players, but everything else is a step in the right direction on where to take the game.
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    Only point 3 and 4 are the issue worth fixing. Point 1 is helping people get cheaper stuff but you don't want it because you're lazy to look at different worlds so your stuff aren't selling. Point 2 spawn S ranks if you don't want to miss them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoofyBoots View Post
    -And there it is typical WOW Mentality player surfaces within minutes of the post -thank you for providing the needed example.
    What are you talking about, at worse they disagreed with part of what you were saying - at best they were agreeing that hunts are messed up and need a rework. They put forward a point, something that I myself am guilty of doing. Soloing - ARR S ranks. I know, I'm terrible. Anyway - this needs to be reworked to something that is similar to the fate system like big fates - such as odin or behemoth.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    1: Worldwide marketboard, that was by design. They wanted us to be able to sell on all realms too, but marketboard spaghetti code stopped them. It's an intentional design choice by them, and in my experience, they refuse to go back on design choices.
    2: They would have been able to move to your server if needed. Unfortunately, that's a player mentality issue and nothing they can do to fix that really. Those sorts of players will be those sorts of players.
    3: Unfortunately, this again is player mentality. They are looking at making hunts FATE style (like Odin). So maybe that'll clear things up?
    4: Not sure how we can fix that. Tried turning down your settings (if possible)? Maybe turning off effects from other players will help? I'm just spitballing here though, it's not an issue I've noticed I'm afraid.

    (since you got 3 and 4 mixed up, I have answered them according to the number. So 3 on my list is the very bottom point on yours)
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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