Kill or Fix Crossworld Visiting Please before this game becomes WOW

[GoofyBoots]

At first it was cool / neat / something new..

Now we are discovering that not every server is like ours -

1. First Market Boards: Because I can buy on any server on my datacenter, I now have to use outside websites to see lowest prices to sell anything on my home server Or Visit every server on my datacenter checking the MB for each item. If you don’t and you’re not the lowest nothing will sell.

2. The server I play on is/was nice: Servers spend years building a community that respect each other and plays well together. Making friends and gathering together for Hunts etc. Now what we are finding out is many other servers have a WOW mentality or are gaining one fast and could care less about server etiquette. They come to our home worlds and wait for people to spawn S ranks and kill them before the people who spawn them have a chance to reach them. They come to our servers and run SB Hunt trains and don't announce to any Cross-world LS or any LS on the server they are killing on. They do this because they are watching outside website timers and could care less about the folks on that server or that log on in the evenings and are trying participate in Hunts or other activities on times.

3. Server Lag and such: Massive amounts of people fluctuating to each server causes lag. On Hunts if your machine or internet isn't top notch now the Marks don't even load in before they are dead. We are getting Que times to log into our home servers now.

4. There is no point: What is happening is a total disruption on the Markets and Communities. When someone comes over to my home world and runs a Hunt for example people try to be polite and ask them to announce or even wait for others and they are given rude responses if they get a response at all. I see no benefit to it other then if you are Hunting S ranks and you are willing to sit at the Aetheryte all day jumping servers. I do see a select few people setting up and running Housing server tours – but that is a very select few.

In the end Crossword visiting is doing more harm then good. Its killing peoples game play and fun. People are on the servers they are on because they like the communities and the way things run there. Opening up crossword visiting has made it to where I’m forced to put up with every WOW mentally player from other servers that I never wanted to visit or be apart of in the first place. if I want to get away for toxic servers/datacenters now, I have to transfer to a new datacenter.

If Crossworld visiting is to stay then SE please throw in some control mechanisms to deter the WOW mentality players.

1. Stop Markerboard access/Trading for Wanders.
2. Put a five-minute timer on S Rank Spawns before they can be damaged/Killed.
3. Fix rendering lag/priority on Hunt Marks.
4. Give Home server players logging on/transferring too priority over wanders.

Just my two cents …

[Gula]

Consider canceling your sub? Because I know of a lot more people enjoying the new MB. Yoshi has explained this change. New era, new player experience times.

Hunts though, those just need a rework in general. Cross world didnt stop 70's from soloing ARR S ranks.

[GoofyBoots]

Consider canceling your sub? Because I know of a lot more people enjoying the new MB. Yoshi has explained this change. New era, new player experience times.

Hunts though, those just need a rework in general. Cross world didnt stop 70's from soloing ARR S ranks.

-And there it is typical WOW Mentality player surfaces within minutes of the post -thank you for providing the needed example.

[Gwenorai]

-And there it is typical WOW Mentality player surfaces within minutes of the post -thank you for providing the needed example.

What are you talking about, at worse they disagreed with part of what you were saying - at best they were agreeing that hunts are messed up and need a rework. They put forward a point, something that I myself am guilty of doing. Soloing - ARR S ranks. I know, I'm terrible. Anyway - this needs to be reworked to something that is similar to the fate system like big fates - such as odin or behemoth.

[Gula]

-And there it is typical WOW Mentality player surfaces within minutes of the post -thank you for providing the needed example.

I have never played WoW a single day in my life. Perhaps consider that maybe, just maybe, people who play mmos share similar sentiments? Maybe??

[NessaWyvern]

-And there it is typical WOW Mentality player surfaces within minutes of the post -thank you for providing the needed example.

And there is the typical using WoW as the boogey man post. Now all we need is "This is some HQ bait" post, and we would have the full set!

I have played a bit of WoW, due to the better PvP there, but I have played years more FF14, and I'd say that excluding trade chat, WoW is actually pretty chill and not all that toxic.
If you play on the Oceanic servers like I do, even Trade Chat isn't that bad at all, as there is a lot less stuff about politics in there.

But I really am getting sick of people using WoW as the boogey man, or as a buzz word. You try to suggest better PvP modes? You get responses like "NO, more PvP is Liek WoW, WoW BAD, No PVP in FF14!" Players suggest an in-game parser? "NO WoW has people with parser add-ons, WoW is more toxic becoz parsers, no parsers in FF14!" What about Grand Company stuff being more meaningful? "NO, WoW has factions, Factions cause toxicity in WoW, NO Factions in FF14!"
WoW has become the default reason for people to disagree with stuff.

I was also worried about the marketboard stuff before it dropped, but I guess my server was actually one of the cheap ones, as a lot of stuff has gone up in price on my server, and more things are selling.

I will admit that hunts have gotten a bit worse though, people don't really wait for players to get there anymore.
It's gotten back to ARR and HW levels of EP's. It'll probably pass though, as those EPs get what they want, or get bored of hunts, as periods of EPs have passed in the past.

[ScarboroughFairy]

And there is the typical using WoW as the boogey man post. Now all we need is "This is some HQ bait" post, and we would have the full set!

You don't say...

[Taebok]

Crossworld is actually a large part of what killed WoW.
It broke up server communities and increased toxicity exponentially because people were no longer being held accountable for their actions.
Frankly, I'm surprised and disappointed that SE thought this was a good idea.

[Taebok]

And there is the typical using WoW as the boogey man post. Now all we need is "This is some HQ bait" post, and we would have the full set!

I have played a bit of WoW, due to the better PvP there, but I have played years more FF14, and I'd say that excluding trade chat, WoW is actually pretty chill and not all that toxic.

I played WoW from Classic up to Legion.
It was the most toxic gaming community I've ever seen.
It's not even close.

[NessaWyvern]

I played WoW from Classic up to Legion.
It was the most toxic gaming community I've ever seen.
It's not even close.

From my personal experience, the feast before they removed the chat, ARR Titan HM before they fixed the latency (I was told to kill myself and uninstall the game back then, which nobody in WoW has ever told me), Rust, Overwatch, and even Runescape has been more toxic for me than WoW.
Honestly, what I have experienced in WoW is nothing compared to the Rust community. Part of the reason why I like Rust, it's unique in how toxic it is, I can only handle it in small amounts though.