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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Because you decide how everyone should play a MMO, right?
    Since when did a MMO become a single player game? MMOs should be about community...with the guild leve system in place, there is no community. No community = no MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Since when did a MMO become a single player game? MMOs should be about community...with the guild leve system in place, there is no community. No community = no MMO.
    Since when people that don't have the time to dedicate to a party every single day and every single time they log in actually play MMOs.

    People that don't share your playstyle paid for the game as much as you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Since when people that don't have the time to dedicate to a party every single day and every single time they log in actually play MMOs.

    People that don't share your playstyle paid for the game as much as you did.
    If you can't put forth the time, you shouldn't play the game. You wouldn't play a card game by yourself would you? (aside from dumb crap like Solitaire) "Some of us don't have the time to play card games with other people!" Then don't play those games. There are HUNDREDs of single player games out there. Go have fun. I, personally, play MMOs to play with other people and get in with the community. If there is no one to play with, since everyone is doing shit solo like a bunch of idiots, then there is no community. If there is no community, there is no MMO. If this isn't a MMO, then why the hell is it online? I think 11 had the right idea. You COULD solo some things with the right job/gear, but not everything could be solod. (I could solo Genbu on Cor and Blm, but not Byakko for example) THIS is how the game needs to be...not where you can solo to 50 in about a month then solo just about anything else that you want. This isn't how a MMO should be set up and if it continues on this route, it will fail just like WoW is failing because it's about 95% solo onry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    This is a moot point. Yoshi-san already noted the lack of socializing in the first poll and said he would be addressing it.
    He will encourage socializing by just that *encouraging* for sure he won't remove solo content to *force* people to socialize. Not gonna happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    If you can't put forth the time, you shouldn't play the game.
    And who exactly are you to say who should and shouldn't play a game commercially available to everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    He will encourage socializing by just that *encouraging* for sure he won't remove solo content to *force* people to socialize. Not gonna happen.



    And who exactly are you to say who should and shouldn't play a game commercially available to everyone?
    MMO: Massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) is a genre of role-playing video games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual game world. There is no interaction going on here. Who am I to say that if you can't meet the requirements of a MMO that you shouldn't play it? I'm an avid MMO player and even on games that ARE more solo based, there is a better community because there is actually an advantage to it knowing more people and doing more group based actions. In 14, there is almost nothing that requires random groups or parties. This, again, is not how a MMO should be played. MMOs are there for people to interact with each other and help each other out. This is almost completely absent in 14. Am I saying remove ALL solo aspects of the game? No. What I AM saying is that they need to make the game LESS soloable and more group oriented. For example, you should be able to solo to about...20, then from there you should need to get a party for any decent exp, but still be able to solo, just for about 1/3rd of the exp per hour. This will not only encourage parties and socializing, but it will also help build a community within the game. This whole "We need to be able to solo everything!" attitude needs to stop. If you want to solo everything, go play a different game. There hasn't been a single FF where everything was soloable. EVERY FF had a party, why should this one be different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    MMO: Massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) is a genre of role-playing video games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual game world.
    Even just talking is a form of interaction. I see people talking, grouping and "Interacting" together all the time. You don't need to *force* people to follow your playstyle in order to have interaction. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Even just talking is a form of interaction. I see people talking, grouping and "Interacting" together all the time. You don't need to *force* people to follow your playstyle in order to have interaction. Sorry.
    grouping with your LS is one thing, grouping with random people is another. Your FL shouldn't consist of only people in your LS. Yes, you DO need to force people to group. If you don't, the game will end up like WoW and Alloids. Everyone solos until endgame THEN they decide to group up, but it's usually with their guilds so again...there's no community. If you want a solo game, go play a solo game and stay away from MMOs which are meant for group play.

    Essentially what I'm saying is GTFO CASUALs. -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Am I saying remove ALL solo aspects of the game? No. What I AM saying is that they need to make the game LESS soloable and more group oriented. For example, you should be able to solo to about...20, then from there you should need to get a party for any decent exp, but still be able to solo, just for about 1/3rd of the exp per hour. This will not only encourage parties and socializing, but it will also help build a community within the game.
    This is pretty much what we will have (supposedly) when the Companies/Dungeons/Instances are introduced. We can currently solo to r50 if we desire, but at r30 will be able to party-up for Dungeons/Instances if we so desire. They have announced r50 content as well which I presume will be a mixture of party-based and soloable.

    We have all become impatient for this content as there is still too little to do in Eorzea and what there is (Guildleves/Behests) has become monotonous. The side-quests are very uninspiring as well.

    This Final Fantasy World is currently on Life Support and needs an I.V. drip of Lore with interconnected quests, Leves and Missions coursing through it's veins. I hope Dr. Yoshi and his staff are able to save this patient from our impatience.
    Once the Heart of Eorzea has been "Rebooted" it will be up to us whether it lives or dies.

    I am hopefull that it will be worth saving but we shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I hate them and I think that they need to be removed. There shouldn't be an alternate form of leveling other than grinding. This "easy" leveling is making people stupid. No one wants to really party anymore. They join a party, do a few leves, break the party and go solo grind. THIS.IS.NOT.HOW.TO.PLAY.A.MMO. -.-
    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Because you decide how everyone should play a MMO, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Since when did a MMO become a single player game? MMOs should be about community...with the guild leve system in place, there is no community. No community = no MMO.
    This is a moot point. Yoshi-san already noted the lack of socializing in the first poll and said he would be addressing it.

    You can see his comment here at question 5:
    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...98e4034b898102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    This is a moot point. Yoshi-san already noted the lack of socializing in the first poll and said he would be addressing it.

    You can see his comment here at question 5:
    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...98e4034b898102
    This was over 2 months ago. I have yet to see anything that has required any amount of a social activity outside of a LS. Hell, you cant even start up the random shout discussions anymore. In 11, I remember people would sit in Jeuno or whitegate and just talk for hours about some random crap. Does 14 have that? No...everyone keeps to themselves and most shouts go unanswered.
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