Hairstyle Concerns for The New Races

[Penthea]

Doesn't really matter what it feels like to you, the math doesn't lie. 16 for the men race and 16 for the women. Men are given unique fur pattern options but no highlights, women are given highlight changing versions of their hair, both things no other race has. If there's more to come we'll see but yeah, they're very much even Stevens right now

This math doesn't add up nicely. Every viera face can have any viera hairstyle. This is not the case for hrothgar. Claiming that the math doesn't lie in this context is like telling two groups of people that they have an even amount of clothing, but in the case of one group they fit only half of them. So while both groups have the same amount of clothing, only one group can wear everything. The math only looks tidy when you don't bother to think about the end user experience.

And it does matter what it feels like to me because I am a player. This content was made for players. And as a player I am concerned about the very restrictive hair options for hrothgar. If hrothgar cannot even share hairstyles among themselves, then naturally it's going to make players worry if they can use other hairstyles they unlocked or bought. I'm not really too worried about this with viera given how you choose hair for them is identical to the existing races, but in the case of hrothgar we got the au ra horn treatment, and we have seen those horns to only ever be locked to faces.

Seems like this is turning out to be another case of male viera ... As in people not taking something at face value and convincing themselves they will get something that wasn't shown just cause it wasn't spelt out to them directly by yoshi.

The difference is there has been a well known lore reason, since before FFXIV was even a game, for why male viera are never seen. There has literally been zero lore as to why hrothgar/ronso cannot share hairstyles among themselves. So you can argue that players should expect male viera to be unplayable, but you can't make that argument for the restrictions on hrothgar hair. No one had any reason to think that hrothgar hair would be given the au ra horn treatment.

[reivaxe]

This math doesn't add up nicely. Every viera face can have any viera hairstyle. This is not the case for hrothgar. Claiming that the math doesn't lie in this context is like telling two groups of people that they have an even amount of clothing, but in the case of one group they fit only half of them. So while both groups have the same amount of clothing, only one group can wear everything. The math only looks tidy when you don't bother to think about the end user experience.

The math is 16 for both races. That's literally the numbers.


We don't know how they will handle this come release so you can only assume how much freedom they give us to change things. Tis why just looking at the numbers is important. Sure, the Hrothgar have restrictions as we see them right now, but that doesn't change that both races currently only have 8 hair styles and 8 alts to them along with unique traits for them.

I am concerned about the very restrictive hair options for hrothgar. If hrothgar cannot even share hairstyles among themselves, then naturally it's going to make players worry if they can use other hairstyles they unlocked or bought. I'm not really too worried about this with viera given how you choose hair for them is identical to the existing races, but in the case of hrothgar we got the au ra horn treatment, and we have seen those horns to only ever be locked to faces.

My point is that if you're concerned about the Hrothgar you should be concerned about the Viera. If you assume there are more to come for Viera then do the same here ... cause really, we have no clue what to expect

We do know, how ever, that the mishap with the replaced picture on the web site was head 1's hair on head 3 and looking at them I see lil prob with fixing them to work on each head. But we'll see in a month I guess.

The difference is there has been a well known lore reason, since before FFXIV was even a game, for why male viera are never seen. There has literally been zero lore as to why hrothgar/ronso cannot share hairstyles among themselves.

.. LOL, what are you talking about?

I'm referring to this ...

-SE shows Viera in vid.
-We only see females.
-Show final race concept art at the end, only females.
-People (including myself) still assume we're getting males.
-People (not me) get shocked when they find out that them not showing males means there are no males once the Hrothgar come.

In this case its ...

-SE refer to both Viera and Hrothgar having unique heads.
-Holds off on giving either head gear until a later date and gives both races the same number of hair styles and alts to them outside of the Fran helmet.
-SE only show Viera with their racial hair styles in promotional media.
-Release benchmark where they only have their 8 racial hair styles and alts. Also their hairstyles have a unique trait that others don't.
-Last time the released a Benchmark for a new race that race had access to all the shared non-mog hairs in the benchmark.
-People think it's safe too assume they will get the others for the unique head Viera come release for some reason.

Like I said, I try to take things at face value. I don't know what to expect but I wouldn't assume one race is gonna get left in the dust and that the other is safe just cause of a tab.
If you are concerned for Hrothgar you should also be concerned for Viera to cause there's not reason assume everything's gonna be roses for them on release.

Anyway ... as things are I can't help but feel there's more to this then we know. Hoping for the best, prepared for the worse.