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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepher View Post
    We currently have 6 tiers of Materia and will likely get 7 in Shadowbringers. The number of Materia levels should be reduced.

    A better system would be to always have Grade 1-4.

    Grade 4 = Grade 7
    Grade 3 = Grade 6
    Grade 2 = Grade 5
    Grade 1 = Grade 4

    Eliminate the current Grade 1, 2, and 3. These grades have been near useless since Heavensward.

    With the new information that main stat Materia will be removed,13 types of Materia will remain. This change eliminates 39 items from the game.

    On top of this, only having four grades of Materia helps over melding chances, which sorely need to be revised.
    You might not need it. Others do. Having those grade I and II materia when leveling DoL/DoH make a huge difference. There are also DOH quests that would have to be recoded since use of low level materia is required.

    Not certain why removing 39 items from the game accomplishes anything of value.

    I also doubt very much that it's going to improve overmelding chances. More likely they would make overmelding chances worse so more of the materia floating around out there would get consumed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Or maybe, having materia that levels with your gear or something? Like if you put it on something under ilevel X then you'd get the appropriate level of materia. Sort of like how they consolidated glamour prisms into just one kind per type (and then just one type for everything, of course).
    They would never do that. I could spiritbond level 15 gear almost instantly to get materia appropriate for level 80 gear under such a system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I would absolutely be okay with that. Overmelding sucks.
    Then don't overmeld if it bothers you. Gear with standard melds is more than sufficient for the majority of game play.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 05-27-2019 at 05:54 AM.

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    Rob Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You might not need it. Others do. Having those grade I and II materia when leveling DoL/DoH make a huge difference. There are also DOH quests that would have to be recoded since use of low level materia is required.
    You would still have grade 1, 2, and 3 materia, thus it wouldn't affect relics.

    However, you bring up a good point about their effect on lower level crafters. Each materia grade should scale. Perhaps each grade represents an expansions gear level.
    Grade 1= ARR
    Grade 2 = Heavensward
    Grade 3 = Stormblood
    Grade 4 = Shadowbringers
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepher View Post
    Each materia grade should scale. Perhaps each grade represents an expansions gear level.
    Grade 1= ARR
    Grade 2 = Heavensward
    Grade 3 = Stormblood
    Grade 4 = Shadowbringers
    Do you not understand the wide scale of stats each of those covers? ARR alone, you want low level players getting the same stats out of materia as level 50s? Or do you just want 50s to just get +1s off of everything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Do you not understand the wide scale of stats each of those covers? ARR alone, you want low level players getting the same stats out of materia as level 50s? Or do you just want 50s to just get +1s off of everything?
    You seemed to leave out the dynamic scaling part. For example, a Grade 1 materia would scale properly for the gear it is equipped to. So a level 20 piece of gear would get a small portion of the stats, while a level 50 piece would get the maximum. Similar to the aetheryte earring they give away for preordering shadowbringers. The system is already in the game, transferring it to another item should be completely possible.
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