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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DotsNnots View Post
    Right now WHM is clipmage - it's next to impossible to play optimally without clipping, and your optimization choices are centered around avoiding clipping.
    I'm of opposite mindset since I find the challenge of "selecting the right tool" to be pretty fun. Just because you have all these lovely oGCDs at your disposal doesn't mean you shouldn't be pushing them all either. Thus finding the optimal skill usage on the fly will be a nightmare yet rewarding experience in my mind. I find the hardest part of playing WHM is not wanting to hit everything unless you need to.

    With that being said I am in agreement that the optimal choice will generally be shared healing responsibilities via oGCDs, but having an GCD AoE instant heal wouldn't be bad either. IE you can use it after Final Omega's Electric Slide to get people topped off prior to Delta Attack and still allow the WHM to move into position properly. Also allows for free non-clip use of Swiftcast to allow the WHM to stack back in while using a GCD afterwards.


    Quote Originally Posted by DotsNnots View Post
    Would be interesting if the red lily is somehow so potent that it makes it worth the value of losing the "stone" (aka new damage spell) casts, though.
    I had a random shower thought of lilies can be grown both over time and with the use of a Cure. Meaning there may be some optimized scenarios that using a Cure may result in a net gain instead of waiting the 30s if the potency is high enough on the lily. IE, if it's 750p like you mentioned before, using a Cure II followed into the lily attack would reduce the need to clip a GCD later for Tetra, resulting in a net DPS gain.

    I guess time will tell though, I might be too tired to offer good theorycraft ATM, lol. I'm looking forward to seeing the tooltips come the 29th but it's also fun to theorize what everything means in that 35s some odd long video too.

    I feel we are getting a huge confession / plenary rework given the amount of times those animations pop up.

    Quote Originally Posted by manamoppet View Post
    Not really sure, but I think the blood lilly attack look a bit like Penelo's (FFXII) Intercession quickening?
    I never played FFXII so I wish I could comment on this xD
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    Astral Thalia
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I never played FFXII so I wish I could comment on this xD
    Me neither (but I want to play it at some point), though I did watch some youtube videos of different Final Fantasy magic some time ago. Did some googling and found a gif from FF Brave Exvius of Intercession that's a bit more easier to compare with than the one in FFXII:



    and from the job action video



    There's not much difference I think (color tint and lack of rising orb)... though some part of Intercession might have been a visual inspiration, or it may be just a coincidence
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