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  1. #5141
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    jake200135's Avatar
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    Liokki Rehw-setlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They should definitely have an option for a feminine and/or androgynous looking base face. Pretty much every male race outside of Hrothgar and Roegadyn allows for that at present. Yet I contest the idea that they should be feminine across the board. Luckily the development team have a vision that seemingly aligns with masculine, conventionally attractive aesthetics. I will give them my support in such an endeavor and hope that I can play a tall, handsome bunny man with a boxer's physique in the future. I even have the /box emote ready on my hotbar!

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  2. #5142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sei_Konsetsu View Post
    It means if you are letting something so trival cause you to make said decision, then what was holding you to the game before the announcement of Viera in general? Why is it because we DONT have male Viera, suddenly your sub is at stake?

    And no, there is not literally 50X more people complaining about Male viera, though I will admit the people complaining about Male viera is a lot louder. Back then, there really wasnet twitch and a lot of social media as there is today.
    I am just not sure why people dont understand that most that unsub or sub less do this for more than one reason and genderlocks could just be the last point. We are giving the devs money and if they dont create enough content that one likes then its fine to first point out what one dislikes in the hope for change (because devs are humans too and cant see everything and might be able to change it) and if that does not happen, can take their money elsewhere.
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  3. #5143
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    Sei_Konsetsu's Avatar
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    Graven Wulfram
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I propose to simply ignore troll posts and continue with a healthy discussion.
    I think it's SUPER interesting that matsuno said on Twitter male viera have a boxer body and he talked lots about them. That makes me really positive hat they have already made a decision but are simply not gonna tell us until the missing genders are released, which makes total sense
    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post



    Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it a troll post
    This guy calls anyone who disagrees with his agenda a troll or being offensive and aggressive towards him, so its best to just ignore him and post on. Iv already said numerous times that I am not against having male viera, but because I feel like SE could do the same things that happened in FF11, apparently I am trolling and being specifically aggressive and offensive toward him. Which is odd, because I am just posting and he makes a direct post to me about how wrong I am to think that it will happen the same way as ff11 when this is 14, then get butt hurt when I don't agree with him.
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  4. #5144
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Honestly I don't think this is the place for a drama so I will do as I said and be the mature one here to back off. Also I would like to say that yes, saying 19 or so yes that I don't have the Roger to unsubscribe or do whatever I want with my subscription because you don't agree with it is being offensive to me or at least I feel that way. You can all feel free to ignore me as I continue to apport to the discussion in whatever ways I find it possible and I will not give any more response to this. Then, I just saw on Twitter someone post 4 screenshots of a modded male au rain and I now completely agree with theodoric and I would like male Viera to be like male au ra but with elegant animations
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  5. #5145
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Honestly I don't think this is the place for a drama so I will do as I said and be the mature one here to back off. Also I would like to say that yes, saying 19 or so yes that I don't have the Roger to unsubscribe or do whatever I want with my subscription because you don't agree with it is being offensive to me or at least I feel that way. You can all feel free to ignore me as I continue to apport to the discussion in whatever ways I find it possible and I will not give any more response to this. Then, I just saw on Twitter someone post 4 screenshots of a modded male au rain and I now completely agree with theodoric and I would like male Viera to be like male au ra but with elegant animations
    19 or so times and no Roger but right. Can't edit on my phone
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  6. #5146
    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Honestly I don't think this is the place for a drama so I will do as I said and be the mature one here to back off. Also I would like to say that yes, saying 19 or so yes that I don't have the Roger to unsubscribe or do whatever I want with my subscription because you don't agree with it is being offensive to me or at least I feel that way. You can all feel free to ignore me as I continue to apport to the discussion in whatever ways I find it possible and I will not give any more response to this. Then, I just saw on Twitter someone post 4 screenshots of a modded male au rain and I now completely agree with theodoric and I would like male Viera to be like male au ra but with elegant animations
    The problem people have is that you dismiss anyone with an alternate opinion as a troll.

    That guy like 30 pages back who was clearly antagonizing people and talking about how men shouldn't be feminine is a troll, someone saying that they aren't entirely sold on male Viera for xyz reason isn't necessarily trolling they could just be expressing their opinion as you do yours.
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  7. #5147
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    Arngrim_Greyashe's Avatar
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    Grimnir Greywolfe
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    Balmung
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    People need thicker skins these days.
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  8. #5148
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    Sei_Konsetsu's Avatar
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    Graven Wulfram
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Honestly I don't think this is the place for a drama so I will do as I said and be the mature one here to back off. Also I would like to say that yes, saying 19 or so yes that I don't have the Roger to unsubscribe or do whatever I want with my subscription because you don't agree with it is being offensive to me or at least I feel that way. You can all feel free to ignore me as I continue to apport to the discussion in whatever ways I find it possible and I will not give any more response to this. Then, I just saw on Twitter someone post 4 screenshots of a modded male au rain and I now completely agree with theodoric and I would like male Viera to be like male au ra but with elegant animations
    How are you "being the mature one" when you come at anyone against your whole "feminized male viera" opinion? Even after I stated that I don't mind male viera but I honestly don't trust SE to not do what they did with ff11 and just toss in an NPC. You come at me, bash my opinions, call me a troll for having opinions and the run away saying "I will be the better man here" while at the same time whining that if we don't get male viera by 6.0, you plan on dropping/lowering your sub. Seriously man, you need to get over yourself. No matter how many people give reason for their opinion, if it doesn't fall in line with what you want, then you call them a troll, or just outright dismiss them as if your opinion on the whole matter is law and no one else has a right to have one.
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  9. #5149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sei_Konsetsu View Post
    How are you "being the mature one" when you come at anyone against your whole "feminized male viera" opinion? Even after I stated that I don't mind male viera but I honestly don't trust SE to not do what they did with ff11 and just toss in an NPC. You come at me, bash my opinions, call me a troll for having opinions and the run away saying "I will be the better man here" while at the same time whining that if we don't get male viera by 6.0, you plan on dropping/lowering your sub. Seriously man, you need to get over yourself. No matter how many people give reason for their opinion, if it doesn't fall in line with what you want, then you call them a troll, or just outright dismiss them as if your opinion on the whole matter is law and no one else has a right to have one.
    First when did I go against anyone for my feminized male Viera? Second, like I said I don't want any drama and I won't respond to it. Sorry if anyone feels offended and feel free to ignore me
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  10. #5150
    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    First when did I go against anyone for my feminized male Viera? Second, like I said I don't want any drama and I won't respond to it. Sorry if anyone feels offended and feel free to ignore me
    I hate to pull a Mean Girls quote here but - oh, who am I kidding I love quoting Mean Girls!

    Who here has felt as if Zeylos has directly gone against them for expressing the opinion that they weren't the biggest fans if feminine male Viera or at least their hope for male Viera was that they would be more masculine? I can't like my own post but trust and believe my hand is raised.

    I don't want to ignore you. We both want to see them included I just wish you could be a bit more moderate in your more extreme views and less (I can't believe I'm the one saying this) needlessly combative.
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