Possible Compromise on Gender Locks: Volunteer Work

[Enla]

You're basically asking for unpaid intern work. Which is both hella unfair to the people who would offer their talents and also extremely gross towards the asset developers who worked their asses off to give us what we have now.

[Hash_Browns]

We as a community have to help the little guy (SE), obviously.

[ErryK]

This will never happen.

[Reimmi]

No. don't start setting the precedent that bethesda gets away with
Mods will fix it! why bother fixing bugs and making a functioning game when we can let our fanbase do it for us?

[DarkMasamune]

As much as it is a good suggestion, as other stated, it would be difficult and way too complicated to do.

Modders can take up to weeks to mod a single piece of clothing, for many reasons. I doubt they'd have the resources, time and willingness to mod an entier bestial-like female body that works around the emotes and gears of the Hrothgar for exemple. I guess it could be done for the Viera, but there would still be a lot of time to put in it, plus, the voice would still be an issue (they cannot change sounds in game, only textures or models, as far as I know).

So saddly I don't believe this could work

[Enla]

As much as it is a good suggestion, as other stated, it would be difficult and way too complicated to do.

Modders can take up to weeks to mod a single piece of clothing, for many reasons. I doubt they'd have the resources, time and willingness to mod an entier bestial-like female body that works around the emotes and gears of the Hrothgar for exemple. I guess it could be done for the Viera, but there would still be a lot of time to put in it, plus, the voice would still be an issue (they cannot change sounds in game, only textures or models, as far as I know).

So saddly I don't believe this could work

It's really not a good suggestion. Not ragging on you personally, and I hope it doesn't come off that way and SINCERELY apologize if it does, but this is absolutely the hill I will die on. It essentially devalues the worth of the asset team who are already putting in hours of their own time to meet our needs. Never, ever give a company the expectation that they can get something for free. Because that company won't go 'cool the fans are dedicated, thanks for the help!' and instead will go 'why are we paying these asset artists if people will just do their work for free'? As someone who works in a creative industry it's an attitude that should NEVER be fostered because once it's settled in with a company those employees start dropping worth like a rock in water. Especially in an industry like gaming where unions are still frowned upon. /Especially/ in countries like Japan where workers are already put through the ringer do to insane societal expectations between the bosses and their underlings.

Worse yet you can end up with companies like Bethesda who got so used to the fans doing their work for them that their games became soulless cash ins that barely innovate or bother to fix bugs because 'the fans will do it'.

[Halivel]

I'm sure Yoshida was asked about possibility to add official mod community like TESO has, and he said his no because of copyright issues and their laws (it was quite long ago so I'm not sure that will can find a source but will try). We should remember that this game was created not in USA and also works officially in a lot of countries which makes things even more complicated. Not to mention that games that allows you mod them officially often are "so-so" by themselves because "ah, modders will fix it probably for us". So while the idea itself is not necessarily bad, the possible result can be very disappointing in long-term perspective.

[Taybat]

please don't lump the entire ff14 community under this. Not everybody wants the other genders for the two races, most are content with what we got and some don't want em in the game.

Where there people who didnt Male miquote or fem roe? If that's the case then those players will get over it just the same. And if you dont like it dont play it. Those players must be the same that asked to hide other players glamors when the Male bunny suits came put

[DarkMasamune]

It's really not a good suggestion. Not ragging on you personally, and I hope it doesn't come off that way and SINCERELY apologize if it does, but this is absolutely the hill I will die on. It essentially devalues the worth of the asset team who are already putting in hours of their own time to meet our needs. Never, ever give a company the expectation that they can get something for free. Because that company won't go 'cool the fans are dedicated, thanks for the help!' and instead will go 'why are we paying these asset artists if people will just do their work for free'? As someone who works in a creative industry it's an attitude that should NEVER be fostered because once it's settled in with a company those employees start dropping worth like a rock in water. Especially in an industry like gaming where unions are still frowned upon. /Especially/ in countries like Japan where workers are already put through the ringer do to insane societal expectations between the bosses and their underlings.

Worse yet you can end up with companies like Bethesda who got so used to the fans doing their work for them that their games became soulless cash ins that barely innovate or bother to fix bugs because 'the fans will do it'.

Don't worry, I'm not taking it in a wrong way

I actually meant that it was a good suggestion in the "it's a good intention" way. I do know it wouldn't be a good thing, as you mentioned. I'm not a fan of companies letting players 'help' them this way, anyway.

[Taybat]

It's a kind thought. But in the end it is up se and the dev team. It may take till 6.0 or when ps5 comes out. But it will hopefully be worth the wait