SE, Please give us the option to make Hrothgar and Viera shorter

[Alucard135]

Only thing I can think of as to why they don't increase the height threshold is because of sitting poses on mounts (Imagine a Roe with a midlander size sitting on a whisper a-go-go mount). So they're probably sitting those height limits as to which both min and max values don't look weird.

[Penthea]

So, yeah; I say open up that option. Let players make smaller Viera and Hrothgar if they want to.

While I always do support more character creation options, and I won't be upset at all if OP's wish comes true, in fact I would welcome it...but we kind of have something like short viera already?

Female miqos already fill the gap of "short and slender mostly human looking race with animal ears, button upturned noses, large eyes, heart shaped jaws, and the option to have very bushy eyebrows." Female au ra also have some of those features.

Viera and female miqos have very similar facial features, skin tones and posture. I think this is partially why SE decided to give us hrothgar. To give the playerbase something it actually doesn't have already. I know both they and miqos are cats, but hrothgar are far more beast than man. Aside from their bulky build, they share very little with the other races when it comes to physical appearance. Viera and miqos look like they could share a common ancestor.

Basically I don't think SE are going to give us something we already have. If we get a significant update to the new races, it most likely would be the missing genders.

But if we get shorter versions of the new races I won't complain. I'm just expecting to not ever see it happen.

[Gula]

Personally, I think they look goofy as hell cause their head sizes seem so tiny on their bodies. I like tall women, short women, stocky women, lean women, all kinds of women generally. As long as it all seems nicely proportionate to the overall asthetics.

It's called a fashion figure. Look up fashion croqis. That's how they look, traditionally. It's why I specifically used them. It's probably the first time someone's made a 3D render of one in a game honestly.

[BiffWellington]

While I always do support more character creation options, and I won't be upset at all if OP's wish comes true, in fact I would welcome it...but we kind of have something like short viera already?

Female miqos already fill the gap of "short and slender mostly human looking race with animal ears, button upturned noses, large eyes, heart shaped jaws, and the option to have very bushy eyebrows." Female au ra also have some of those features.

Viera and female miqos have very similar facial features, skin tones and posture. I think this is partially why SE decided to give us hrothgar. To give the playerbase something it actually doesn't have already. I know both they and miqos are cats, but hrothgar are far more beast than man. Aside from their bulky build, they share very little with the other races when it comes to physical appearance. Viera and miqos look like they could share a common ancestor.

Basically I don't think SE are going to give us something we already have. If we get a significant update to the new races, it most likely would be the missing genders.

But if we get shorter versions of the new races I won't complain. I'm just expecting to not ever see it happen.

This does not help me in my selfish desire to have my six-foot-tall female character be considered, you know, tall.

[Mugear_bahamut]

I'm seriously hoping for Male Viera to be short like the female Au Ra because we don't have that option yet.

[Iscah]

Character models don't change proportions with height like real people do - the entire model scales up and down. So there's a limit on how much they can be resized before it starts looking odd.

[BiffWellington]

Lolwut? I'm a conservative, and I'm sure you've seen me complaining non-stop about my tall female character no longer being tall. It's right here in this very thread!

I don't think partisan political views have anything to do with it.

[AndyMugu]

If SE caves in then there should be an option for even taller Viera (for example 5 - 6'5) I'm fine with their current height range. Tall women are also feminine.

5'1 (shortest Viera) is REALLY short for a female where i'm from (5'45 being average)

Agreed. If it were up to me we should get taller and shorter subraces/clans for EVERY race.

[AndyMugu]

In this thread OP expresses an antiquated, sexist view about women & demonstrates that they are intimidated by super models, Icelandic women & Signouney Weaver.

The hell? First of all, I want Hrothgar to be Shorter as well, and if it were up to me we'd have shorter and taller options for ALL races. Dev time wise it takes no time at all.

[AndyMugu]

While I always do support more character creation options, and I won't be upset at all if OP's wish comes true, in fact I would welcome it...but we kind of have something like short viera already?

Female miqos already fill the gap of "short and slender mostly human looking race with animal ears, button upturned noses, large eyes, heart shaped jaws, and the option to have very bushy eyebrows." Female au ra also have some of those features.

Viera and female miqos have very similar facial features, skin tones and posture. I think this is partially why SE decided to give us hrothgar. To give the playerbase something it actually doesn't have already. I know both they and miqos are cats, but hrothgar are far more beast than man. Aside from their bulky build, they share very little with the other races when it comes to physical appearance. Viera and miqos look like they could share a common ancestor.

Basically I don't think SE are going to give us something we already have. If we get a significant update to the new races, it most likely would be the missing genders.

But if we get shorter versions of the new races I won't complain. I'm just expecting to not ever see it happen.

Thanks for some real constructive feedback! This makes the most sense to me! Still, one can dream for shorter and taller versions of all races, even if they need to be a new clan