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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    Now you just changed the entire discussion, from what the discussion actually is: Someone asking for assistance, should be able to receive the information in normal duties as the explanation is often less than a line to type. Your scenario is now: "this person doesn't want help", and that's not the scope of the topic.
    My scenario is actually "in my experience, people don't want unsolicited advice, so I don't provide it."

    The discussion as a whole is unchanged.

    But it's also lazy to think no one deserves help even if it's just a quick quip of "stand here for x."

    So the "lazy" argument is just circular and everyone is lazy. You're lazy for not wanting to answer a question, the person asking is lazy for not knowing the answer. It's a really stupid discussion.
    The part which I specifically called lazy is the scenario where at the start of a fight, everyone's ready for the pull and then one person asks for a full rundown on the boss, in content that has been out for a while.

    In my opinion, that's lazy because that information is readily available.

    Everything else, I said was inconsiderate. There's a difference.

    Also, I never said no one deserves help, and I never said I wouldn't give a "quick quip", or type out a "less than a single line". I said the situation doesn't present itself with any sort of frequency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtga View Post
    My scenario is actually "in my experience, people don't want unsolicited advice, so I don't provide it."

    The discussion as a whole is unchanged.



    The part which I specifically called lazy is the scenario where at the start of a fight, everyone's ready for the pull and then one person asks for a full rundown on the boss, in content that has been out for a while.

    In my opinion, that's lazy because that information is readily available.

    Everything else, I said was inconsiderate. There's a difference.

    Also, I never said no one deserves help, and I never said I wouldn't give a "quick quip", or type out a "less than a single line". I said the situation doesn't present itself with any sort of frequency.
    You're literally reaching now.

    The topic started as, go watch a guide instead of asking for help. The italicized part is half of the discussion we're having. Just because you can say people refuse to ask, or refuse to take in information, and didn't want the advice or help... why are we talking about them? As if they're going to go watch a guide, lol. But no, the topic is: If someone asks for unique boss mechanics, in the vast majority of content it isn't hard to lay down the couple there are present. That's not lazy, that's a pretty basic expectation when running a piece of content with a group of people in a MMORPG.

    But it's pretty clear you're not wanting to discuss this in the scope of the thread's post and title, as in, people asking and requesting for help and whether or not they should receive it as you continually pull hyperbolic examples of people who actively do not want that, and those people are not who we're talking about if you read the topic post.

    It's not inconsiderate to ask for boss mechs in normal content, it's inconsiderate to tell them to piss off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    You're literally reaching now.
    Whatever you say, brother.

    I've already stated my opinion on the topic, if you don't like it, simply say that you disagree and move on if it irritates you.

    It's not inconsiderate to ask for boss mechs in normal content, it's inconsiderate to tell them to piss off.
    When did I say that? Oh that's right, I didn't.
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