CRUEL! Shame on your SE

[Leloa]

You've been in this game longer that I have and you're still crying after a house? If it's such a big deal just change servers, buy a small unwanted plot from Goblet and then just relocate to a bigger plot.

[mjorge1991]

You've been in this game longer that I have and you're still crying after a house? If it's such a big deal just change servers, buy a small unwanted plot from Goblet and then just relocate to a bigger plot.

I would honestly grab a small in goblet but i tried three different servers that were "preferred" and there was nothing available.

[MizArai]

I would honestly grab a small in goblet but i tried three different servers that were "preferred" and there was nothing available.

The next time a decent number of houses become available on NA servers should be 45 days after demolition was re-started (early June, I don't remember the exact date). I only expect to see a small trickle of houses coming open on any server between now and then. And on most servers, those that open up should probably be purchased within a few days, a week at the most. I honestly expected free transfers to make some of the smaller servers super available again, though people might have also transferred to those smaller servers and bought the houses that opened up from transfers.

[Flashgordon1975]

I am lucky I have multiple houses (L) from before changes, however the timer that forces people to sit an click is awful.

I don't think getting rid of the wards is going to happen. The neighborhood feel for many is important and hanging out with FC mates/friends is fun outside the houses.

Perhaps a hybrid system of the way wards are now and instanced housing is the way to go. In addition to this, I would simply make a player click the placard once to be entered into a lottery of potential buyers and be notified through mog mail if they win and give them a time frame in which to purchase. Not perfect, but it would allow people to go do other things.

[Kieren-Dohla]

If two people are both paying for the same sub plan price, and one gets housing and the other one can't get it even though they have the gil, the one who can't is getting less value for their sub yet paying same price.
This is blatantly unfair and just plain wrong.

SE long ago created a system for housing that would always result in have and have not among people that could pay for housing. If you can't get a house when you got the gil they should refund a portion of your subscription price every month until they implement enough housing and you get a house. Otherwise you are getting less value for the money your spend on your sub. Ofc SE being so greedy they would never do this to correct this wrong.

[Besame]

Fact is: SE has and continues to advertise housing for players. FF is played among many cultures so just because in japan it doesn't seem to be a huge priority, it doesn't mean other people are not housing enthusiasts and should be unable to get what is advertised. Many get tired of constantly beating down bosses and enjoy alternative choices, again, AS ADVERTISED. You should not have to jump servers to get what is promised, people are often very vested on theirs. It is not the customer's fault that the brilliant minds *rolls eyes* at SE did not see the writing on the wall. Simple visits to other games with housing components would of enabled acceptable housing for all. Now they need to fix the fail by introducing instanced housing, better late than never, to their customers.

[MizArai]

Fact is: SE has and continues to advertise housing for players. FF is played among many cultures so just because in japan it doesn't seem to be a huge priority, it doesn't mean other people are not housing enthusiasts and should be unable to get what is advertised. Many get tired of constantly beating down bosses and enjoy alternative choices, again, AS ADVERTISED. You should not have to jump servers to get what is promised, people are often very vested on theirs. It is not the customer's fault that the brilliant minds *rolls eyes* at SE did not see the writing on the wall. Simple visits to other games with housing components would of enabled acceptable housing for all. Now they need to fix the fail by introducing instanced housing, better late than never, to their customers.

It's not that the Japanese aren't housing enthusiasts. They really are. Some of the best designs in FFXIV housing constantly are coming from Japan. The difference is literally the server populations for most Japanese servers are so much lower than most of the NA/ EU servers. Most JP servers that I've visited have a decent amount of housing available in Goblet, often with multiple mediums open and occasionally a large (new character, started in Ul'dah, only done the quest to look at stuff from Ul'dah's aetheryte since Lav Beds requires lvl 10). It just means the Japanese fans aren't facing the same housing crisis we are. They're at the stage we were like 2-3 years ago, where Balmung, Gilgamesh, and a few other super large servers were the only ones with a huge housing crunch.

You can claim that people shouldn't have to jump servers to get housing, but I'd also argue that people shouldn't constantly make new characters on over populated servers. It's a double edged blade. If you want the heavy population, you need to realize that means you're going to have a rough time getting a house with the ward system currently in place.

Personally, I'd love to see wards kept as well as an instanced housing system put in. I'd love for every character created to be able to buy a house if they want (even characters on the same account) without it taking things away from anyone else. That's not what we have currently. Hopefully it's what we'll get soon.

[Penthea]

You can claim that people shouldn't have to jump servers to get housing, but I'd also argue that people shouldn't constantly make new characters on over populated servers. It's a double edged blade. If you want the heavy population, you need to realize that means you're going to have a rough time getting a house with the ward system currently in place.

This isn't fair to say. Aside from servers being locked or flagged as preferred, there is nothing to distinguish a highly populated server from a low populated server. And even those labels are far from specific. The game doesn't do a good job of telling you what the population states are. Sure someone can google a census but most players who think to do that tend to have played mmos before. Someone new to the genre is unlikely to think of it. Then of course there are people who want to play with friends. While world visiting makes this easier across servers, it doesn't solve the fc issue. You still need to be in the same server for that.

Personally I had no clue FFXIV even had housing when I started playing, so that certainly wasn't a factor in deciding where to create my character. I only knew legacy servers had super high populations so I avoided them because I didn't want to deal with long login queues, or just generally overcrowded areas. I chose Moogle because it allowed me to create a character (first attempt did not work on another server) and also because I like moogles.

Players shouldn't have to be very calculating about where they create a character just so they can engage in some content.

Personally, I'd love to see wards kept as well as an instanced housing system put in. I'd love for every character created to be able to buy a house if they want (even characters on the same account) without it taking things away from anyone else. That's not what we have currently. Hopefully it's what we'll get soon.

Agreed.

[Besame]

It's not that the Japanese aren't housing enthusiasts. They really are. Some of the best designs in FFXIV housing constantly are coming from Japan. The difference is literally the server populations for most Japanese servers are so much lower than most of the NA/ EU servers. Most JP servers that I've visited have a decent amount of housing available in Goblet, often with multiple mediums open and occasionally a large (new character, started in Ul'dah, only done the quest to look at stuff from Ul'dah's aetheryte since Lav Beds requires lvl 10). It just means the Japanese fans aren't facing the same housing crisis we are. They're at the stage we were like 2-3 years ago, where Balmung, Gilgamesh, and a few other super large servers were the only ones with a huge housing crunch.

You can claim that people shouldn't have to jump servers to get housing, but I'd also argue that people shouldn't constantly make new characters on over populated servers. It's a double edged blade. If you want the heavy population, you need to realize that means you're going to have a rough time getting a house with the ward system currently in place.

Personally, I'd love to see wards kept as well as an instanced housing system put in. I'd love for every character created to be able to buy a house if they want (even characters on the same account) without it taking things away from anyone else. That's not what we have currently. Hopefully it's what we'll get soon.

I'd like to see the ability to purchase 1 dwelling in each of the separate districts on each server. 4x houses per server is plenty unless they add a new district. Keep the wards? Fine, just make future districts instanced to allow housing for all. If they could make it so instanced housing could be expanded upon, pay and make the existing home bigger, it would be even sweeter and help with having to move around.

[Besame]

I'm sure angry posts where people use their irl issues as a crutch help a lot and SE feels like SUPER threatened and reserves a special housing plot just for you. Honestly I would just wait for the next LL and see if they make any announcements about housing there. The devs probably have their hands full with Shadowbringers stuff so housing is most likely not their number 1 priority right now. I agree that the current system is badly implemented and it has been discussed literally everywhere a million times since the random timer was added (and WAY before that as well) so surely they are more than aware that people are bothered by it. Seriously just have some patience and focus on taking care of yourself for now.

Yes, they have had their hands full with Shadowbringers since 2013, um hm, ok, ty for the the brilliant insight and forum diagnosis Mr/Ms "Psychology Today" reader