A question to all WoW players coming to XIV

[SturmChurro]

But...FFXIV looks absolutely nothing like Pokémon or Yu-Gi-Oh. I struggle to see the similarities between those two anime and this game. If anyone thinks they look similar then they are greatly misremembering how those anime look. It's sad that something being japanese is enough to turn someone off regardless of how it looks.



I'm sorry but anyone who thinks the ShB trailer looks weeb knows nothing about weeb stuff. The argument is certainly there for SB with the clear eastern influence for the environments and highlighted classes, but ShB? Most of it looks like classic western high fantasy.

I think people are overly focused on the fact that SE are a japanese company instead of taking the game for what it is. Just because it's japanese doesn't make it stereotypical otaku stuff.

Also lets not forget WoW had an expansion all about a panda race in a panda land with a panda culture that was clearly of strong eastern influence. The female pandas are super cute with huge eyes and a permanent smile plastered on to their faces...and do the cringey caramelldansen as their racial dance

But somehow FFXIV's supposed weebness and cuteness is unfamiliar territory for WoW players

edit: yes I know Caramelldansen isn't a japanese song

I never said it did look like Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh! I was just saying those are the only "anime" I have ever even seen, and I don't think I even knew what anime was until I was told a few years ago. Yes, from my point of view a lot of this stuff looks very similar whether you are thinking of one of those weird lolli (?) MMOs with the cutesy child characters or something, or not However, people will lump those in with the more supposed serious animes as well. Viewing everything as the same, if it's from Japan. I think dark souls or bloodborne (those are japanese right?) are some of the only ones not considered "weeb", or like classic games, nintendo. It's a very narrow-minded point of view, but that's how it is. Stuff like Dragon Ball Z or those mainstream anime are liked though.

Yeah, and these people also think the expansion was stupid, and "weeb", and I think it's supposed to on Chinese culture. Hey these are the same people who see Korean, Chinese, and Japanese games as all "weeb". I am generalizing though.

Check what Asmongold and his friend think of Bless:
I'm gonna edit that out actually, I'm not sure if a cuss word in a linked video will get me banned again. Look it up though on youtube.

[Spratchet]

Also lets not forget WoW had an expansion all about a panda race in a panda land with a panda culture that was clearly of strong eastern influence. The female pandas are super cute with huge eyes and a permanent smile plastered on to their faces...and do the cringey caramelldansen as their racial dance

But somehow FFXIV's supposed weebness and cuteness is unfamiliar territory for WoW players

edit: yes I know Caramelldansen isn't a japanese song

It was also the most hated expansion, aesthetically, specifically because it was asian themed. Other expansions may have destroyed characters and ruined the story for players, but Pandaria was reviled by the majority of the playerbase. If anything all you're doing is proving that they have never particularly liked asian styled content.

[Vahlnir]

If anything all you're doing is proving that they have never particularly liked asian styled content.

People are free to like or dislike whatever they want. But if people are going to dislike something they should at least know what they're talking about... and in this case, it's that a JRPG =/= anime. There really is a difference. And I definitely wouldn't take the opinion of most Youtubers seriously, especially Asmongold.

[Vonleo]

I just don't get how WoW players can get off making fun of FFXIV graphics but are playing a game since 2004 that has not had a meaningful graphics update since its release. The game honestly looks like a F2P game and even some F2P games look better then WoW. I can understand people not LIKING the FFXIV style which is fine but then to try and use the words "cute" or "weeb" as an insult just boggles my mind.

I guess the saying "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones" should apply here?

[Vahlnir]

I just don't get how WoW players can get off making fun of FFXIV graphics but are playing a game since 2004 that has not had a meaningful graphics update since its release. The game honestly looks like a F2P game and even some F2P games look better then WoW. I can understand people not LIKING the FFXIV style which is fine but then to try and use the words "cute" or "weeb" as an insult just boggles my mind.

I guess the saying "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones" should apply here?

To be completely honest, I have seen more people in FF XIV bashing WoW than people in WoW bashing FF XIV. Most of them had no idea what they were talking about. Over the past couple of years I've seen a fair amount of people who play WoW actually say "this game sucks, go play FF XIV". WoW hasn't been in a good place for some time, though it has nothing to do with the art style.

[van_arn]

I just don't get how WoW players can get off making fun of FFXIV graphics but are playing a game since 2004 that has not had a meaningful graphics update since its release. The game honestly looks like a F2P game and even some F2P games look better then WoW. I can understand people not LIKING the FFXIV style which is fine but then to try and use the words "cute" or "weeb" as an insult just boggles my mind.

I guess the saying "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones" should apply here?

Uh, you must've missed all of their graphical updates. There's a huge difference between the burning crusade zones and the lich king zones. Not to mention the old world revamp in cataclysm.

If you can't see the difference, then you're no different than the typical wow player that reduces ffxiv to anime catgirls and desu.

[OhnoozeMyToes]

As someone who grew up in the west on stuff like Conan the Barbarian and The Hobbit….I had a really hard time appreciating the Japanese art direction in FFXIV. Even now it feels a little odd to me at times but it’s also growing on me more and more every day. But WoW is just typical western style stuff imo and it’s just what most of us in the US are used to I think. I like WoWs art direction but I don’t see myself ever playing it again.

[Vonleo]

Uh, you must've missed all of their graphical updates. There's a huge difference between the burning crusade zones and the lich king zones. Not to mention the old world revamp in cataclysm.

If you can't see the difference, then you're no different than the typical wow player that reduces ffxiv to anime catgirls and desu.

I must admit I have never played WoW not one minute of it but the graphics I am seeing as of right now do not look impressive at all. There is basically very little detail on gear from what I see or not enough of it.

[OhnoozeMyToes]

I must admit I have never played WoW not one minute of it but the graphics I am seeing as of right now do not look impressive at all. There is basically very little detail on gear from what I see or not enough of it.

It's all about art direction and coloring with WoW. It's got zones that are beautiful to look at with a crap ton of detail. But it's not so much the graphics as it is coloring and art direction.

[Skivvy]

It's all about art direction and coloring with WoW. It's got zones that are beautiful to look at with a crap ton of detail. But it's not so much the graphics as it is coloring and art direction.

Perhaps it requires an appreciation like XI does. That game is ancient, the graphics are obviously abysmal compared to modern games - but I absolutely love the art direction/world with that game. I'v personally never touched WoW as the style never appealed to me, but then I got sucked into WildStar which is was also more cartoony, but I loved the feel of the game all the same. Personal preferences are a weird thing.