Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Pixiehawk]

Thats right probably because there's no profit gained unlike FF14 where we have fantasia in FF11 you just start another character.

Late to the party (like 8 pages back, so I have no idea if I'm talking something already pointed out, if so sorry) , but if they have not changed how it works starting another character is a dollar more a month. For each one. It was $13 a month, if you had one alt it was $14, 2 alts, $15, etc. I had enough I was paying over $20 I think. If someone made an alt and kept it for more and 10 months it was more than a single fantasia. So the potential for more profit if they didn't kill their original and make an alt. With the grind on that game, I doubt most would.

[zeylos]

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First of all, I'd like to address the fact that you are right. Neither you nor me know what is going on at SE. They could have male viera and female hrotgar ready and launch them at 5.0 as a surprise, or they could have already decided that they will never ever do them regardless of anything, but we are trying to give feedback and discuss about what we think is most likely to happen based on what little information we have.
Then, female viera, and viera in general, adds absoluetely nothing to the game, yet many ppl asked for them and that means SE would make tons of cash from them. If they prioritized their vision for the game, we would have gotten hrotgar fully, and no viera at all, but we got female viera added at 5.0, with a possibility for the other genders at a later date. They did this for cash, and you are free to think otherwise, we are all entitled to our own opinion after all, but there are some things that at least to me seem quite obvious. If they weren't doing it for cash, don't you think they would have given them some racial armor and not the lingerie that they gave us knowing it would make people play the race so they can stare at their butts

[zeylos]

I just stumbled upon this image that imo would make for a very decent male viera since it blends the slim femenine male and beefy muscular guy pretty well imo, giving both of them but not way too much of either.
Credits to: ponz-onigiri

[Gwenorai]

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Looks like a Viera WoL from FF Mobius. Square is known for making males that are lean and muscular - a lot of their protags and humanoid antagonists have this body type. People seem to just want them to be even slimmer than that without a lot of muscle development. I'd honestly be happy if they had Midlanders muscle development - but I know they'll look like elves. I hope if they look like elves that they have more muscle development. Biceps/sixpack that type of deal. Muscle slider, please. I did find out that Viera females are just a slightly than male Highlander - so, if the males are smaller than the females then it's likely they'd be Male Midlander height - if it wasn't a 'Au'ra' drastic height difference - this isn't counting the ears.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

First of all, I'd like to address the fact that you are right. Neither you nor me know what is going on at SE. They could have male viera and female hrotgar ready and launch them at 5.0 as a surprise, or they could have already decided that they will never ever do them regardless of anything, but we are trying to give feedback and discuss about what we think is most likely to happen based on what little information we have.
Then, female viera, and viera in general, adds absoluetely nothing to the game, yet many ppl asked for them and that means SE would make tons of cash from them. If they prioritized their vision for the game, we would have gotten hrotgar fully, and no viera at all, but we got female viera added at 5.0, with a possibility for the other genders at a later date. They did this for cash, and you are free to think otherwise, we are all entitled to our own opinion after all, but there are some things that at least to me seem quite obvious. If they weren't doing it for cash, don't you think they would have given them some racial armor and not the lingerie that they gave us knowing it would make people play the race so they can stare at their butts

You seem to be unaware that the "lingerie" that they gave the female Viera is what Fran, a main character of Final Fantasy XII, wears for the entirety of that game. They gave us that armor for the Fan service.

[GenBroadaxe]

First of all, I'd like to address the fact that you are right. Neither you nor me know what is going on at SE. They could have male viera and female hrotgar ready and launch them at 5.0 as a surprise, or they could have already decided that they will never ever do them regardless of anything, but we are trying to give feedback and discuss about what we think is most likely to happen based on what little information we have.
Then, female viera, and viera in general, adds absoluetely nothing to the game, yet many ppl asked for them and that means SE would make tons of cash from them. If they prioritized their vision for the game, we would have gotten hrotgar fully, and no viera at all, but we got female viera added at 5.0, with a possibility for the other genders at a later date. They did this for cash, and you are free to think otherwise, we are all entitled to our own opinion after all, but there are some things that at least to me seem quite obvious. If they weren't doing it for cash, don't you think they would have given them some racial armor and not the lingerie that they gave us knowing it would make people play the race so they can stare at their butts

That's the thing though. They did prioritize their vision and that vision included something for folks who wanted a fan service race and a beast race. They've explicitly said that and since Fran is the "iconic viera" at this point, it make sense to make the race female if they only had the time and resources to make one option for it and hrothgar. I doubt there was sitting and greedily rubbing hands together in some conspiracy to sell fantasia and let's be honest, the viera starting outfit isn't any worse then the mi'quote thigh highs, mini skirt, crop top look. Folks who want their characters to dress skimpy are gonna do it regardless of what race they're playing.

[SieyaM]

I still feel that people that wanted kind of a slim elegant race (or something that really wasnt small cat boys) kind of got shafted still. The only real option for you is Elezen and I just cannot bring myself to play as a giraffe.

[SturmChurro]

I still feel that people that wanted kind of a slim elegant race (or something that really wasnt small cat boys) kind of got shafted still. The only real option for you is Elezen and I just cannot bring myself to play as a giraffe.

What exactly do you mean by 'slim and elegant'? Do you actually just mean a tall pretty boy human?

[VirusOnline]

That's the thing though. They did prioritize their vision and that vision included something for folks who wanted a fan service race and a beast race. They've explicitly said that and since Fran is the "iconic viera" at this point, it make sense to make the race female if they only had the time and resources to make one option for it and hrothgar. I doubt there was sitting and greedily rubbing hands together in some conspiracy to sell fantasia and let's be honest, the viera starting outfit isn't any worse then the mi'quote thigh highs, mini skirt, crop top look. Folks who want their characters to dress skimpy are gonna do it regardless of what race they're playing.

It'd be silly to think that cash is not a part of the equation here regardless of what was done and said. No one is intentionally being greedy, but above all else, what needs to be remembered is that SE is a business and revenue is demanded from each and every project decision. Yes, savage raids can be called revenue because it is content that keeps players playing and paying a sub. A business cannot survive on pure fan service, but female viera (in all its obviousness) is a smart fan service business move as is male Hrothgar (with the dying WoW playerbase). Female Viera will appeal to those who play female characters and female viera diehards. Male Hrothgar will appeal to WoW players who are looking for another MMO to devote their time to. Fantasia sales will be (one hopes) tremendous.

We can all sit here deluded by the idea that SE does nothing for the sake of money, but at the end of the day it is a business. It has employees. It requires ideas that motivate income.

[Lauront]

We'll see whether that comes to fruition in the case of male Hrothgar, but I agree, they're not doing it for any reason other than to hopefully boost profits.