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  1. #1551
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spratchet View Post
    We have what we have and that's all we're getting. If you don't like it, that's fine, but just move on and play something else. No point trying to argue why it should be your way when they already explained, in detail why it is the way it is.
    So basically, don't ever provide feedback because SE never listen to anything any fan has said?

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    Do you know much about Yoshida?
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  2. #1552
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    So basically, don't ever provide feedback because SE never listen to anything any fan has said?

    ...

    Do you know much about Yoshida?
    They already looked at our feedback and "we're not changing it" was the basic response we got. This isn't about providing feedback at this stage. This is complaining that you didn't get what you wanted.
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  3. #1553
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spratchet View Post
    They already looked at our feedback and "we're not changing it" was the basic response we got. This isn't about providing feedback at this stage. This is complaining that you didn't get what you wanted.
    No, "We're going to release what we had planned in 5.1 and then we'll look at people's feedback" was the response we got.
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  4. #1554
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    No, "We're going to release what we had planned in 5.1 and then we'll look at people's feedback" was the response we got.
    You are free to make suggestions and give feedback at anytime, that said, they are more interested in the feedback after players see the 5.1 stuff.

    i would imagine people who want regular duty job will still be unsatisfied though
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  5. #1555
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    i would imagine people who want regular duty job will still be unsatisfied though
    Most likely.

    But, if they're going to be looking more at feedback - Especially post the new stuff they have planned. Maybe they might consider it?

    I mean anything that isn't "We're not changing Limited Jobs ever" is a step up.

    People likely understand how slim a chance there is of BLU becoming an actual job, but the fact that Yoshida has already mentioned that they aren't simply going ahead with their projected timeline without regard to player feedback is a sign that maybe, just maybe, feedback such as this isn't wasted?

    As such, it's silly to just be like "Oh, this is what we got... Lets just all go play a different game" especially when Yoshida and the devs do care about player feedback. For example, the recent letter about how due to player feedback regarding the sadness of not being able to wear spectacles on the new races, the Devs used their own free time to put in the work to make a bunch of spectacles wearable on them.

    When previously, Yoshi stated that they wouldn't be able to wear them.

    This was literally a case of Yoshi stated "This won't happen" and then it did, due to player feedback.
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  6. #1556
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Most likely.

    But, if they're going to be looking more at feedback - Especially post the new stuff they have planned. Maybe they might consider it?

    I mean anything that isn't "We're not changing Limited Jobs ever" is a step up.

    People likely understand how slim a chance there is of BLU becoming an actual job, but the fact that Yoshida has already mentioned that they aren't simply going ahead with their projected timeline without regard to player feedback is a sign that maybe, just maybe, feedback such as this isn't wasted?

    As such, it's silly to just be like "Oh, this is what we got... Lets just all go play a different game" especially when Yoshida and the devs do care about player feedback. For example, the recent letter about how due to player feedback regarding the sadness of not being able to wear spectacles on the new races, the Devs used their own free time to put in the work to make a bunch of spectacles wearable on them.

    When previously, Yoshi stated that they wouldn't be able to wear them.

    This was literally a case of Yoshi stated "This won't happen" and then it did, due to player feedback.
    Always give honest and constructive feedback. Over the years ive watched this game since arr beta change, and many things they may not have done, was turned on a dime bc of fan feedback. No rednage ever? we got a redmage, BLU never coming? its here, just "limited" but thats for now, anything can change.When you think about all the feedback and requests that ended up making it in, its mind blowing.
    Yeah sometimes something may not go the way everyone hoped, but I can tell that they do generally take into consideration.
    For me, I can see BLU on a trial run, currently having fun with it, but sort of disappointed that in prder to learn some important skills, you have to be able to run dungeons(with OP friends willing to jump in that old content) so at the least...could use some hammering out at the least
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 05-16-2019 at 08:00 PM.

  7. #1557
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spratchet View Post
    BLU is not going to be changed to suit your idea of what it should be. We have what we have and that's all we're getting. If you don't like it, that's fine, but just move on and play something else. No point trying to argue why it should be your way when they already explained, in detail why it is the way it is.
    Do not criticize idea, consume product and wait for next product to consume.
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  8. #1558
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    +1. They would have to make some big adjustments to the job, and maybe they don't feel like it's something they can handle along with all the other jobs, but if 3000 post threads made Viera and Hroth a thing I'm hoping for this. (And I don't even have it unlocked yet, it just looks fun and cool as hell) .
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  9. #1559
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    Blue Mage is garbage`

    So Blue Mage has always been my favorite job and I really enjoyed it in FFXI. I returned recently to give it a go and was incredibly shocked at the absolute garbage implementation Square-Enix has given it. A limited job with no access to duties? The skills are trash and the amount of spells in EXTREME trials is ludicrous. This is supposed to be a solo job? Are they crazy? NOBODY is listing this job in Party Finder anymore. That's how unappealing and waste of a time it was to make this a limited job. Blue Mage could have perfectly been altered to fit with the current theme of FFXIV. Don't give any excuses! It didn't have to be 100% like the previous iterations but it could have been done properly. Instead we got this mess of a job that I'm just shelving.

    They need to unlock the class and seriously redesign how it plays. Right now the skills are a mess and the overall class was just poorly implemented. Don't even get me started on the Masked Carnival.

    I support this thread. Unlock Blue Mage and make it a full class. Allow it to be put in Duties. Keep the current spell count limitation and let people make up their own minds as to what skills to bring. They were afraid that Blue Mage would be OP but at the end of the day it's extremely weak. The skills are just a dump fire mess. Also they kept mentioning "DOOM" in the past, but bosses are immune to pretty much everything. So that was a poor excuse.
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    Last edited by Xruptor; 05-21-2019 at 08:55 PM.

  10. #1560
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spratchet View Post
    They already looked at our feedback and "we're not changing it" was the basic response we got. This isn't about providing feedback at this stage. This is complaining that you didn't get what you wanted.
    Firstly, they never said that they weren't going to change BLU. If they did, I would very much like some source on that. Secondly? This is about providing feedback, about a, pardon my french, shit system nobody wanted. The current implementation of Blue Mage is objectively bad, and the concept of 'Limited Jobs' needs to get the guillotine.
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