Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

They could... I dunno... slap them with a lawsuit? They are hosting character names that belong to Square Enix after all.

Alternatively NA could move to using one too.

In that case, they'd have to take down garlond tools, the glamour websites, fflogs. Every fan site out there. Also, the site would have to be in a country that obeyed copyright laws.

[WaterShield]

In that case, they'd have to take down garlond tools, the glamour websites, fflogs. Every fan site out there. Also, the site would have to be in a country that obeyed copyright laws.

They wouldn't "have" to do anything. They choose, they aren't obligated to take down every fan site.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

They wouldn't "have" to do anything. They choose, they aren't obligated to take down every fan site.

That's not how copyright law works lol. You can't pick and choose.

[WaterShield]

That's not how copyright law works lol. You can't pick and choose.

So the government sends out cease and desist letters without the company's request?

Edit: I don't understand how the owner of the IP cannot give their blessing to one fan site, but shut down another. Can you please explain further as to why that might be?

[Feidam]

So the government sends out cease and desist letters without the company's request?

Edit: I don't understand how the owner of the IP cannot give their blessing to one fan site, but shut down another. Can you please explain further as to why that might be?

It depends on the laws of the country where the sites are located. Some require items to be treated consistently, some have almost no rules. It’s just not a simple process for them to navigate. So it really depends on where they draw the line. And in this case it is items that intercept the data stream or alter the game. The folks using the glamour mods could easily get snagged if SE found out.

[WaterShield]

It depends on the laws of the country where the sites are located. Some require items to be treated consistently, some have almost no rules. It’s just not a simple process.

Because the defense is based around defending the up. If you say "we don't like this site, and it infringes on our up, but that site is good, even though it infringes on our ip, the judge would throw it out.

That's problematic then. One would assume that as the owners of the IP they would be able to strike down offending sites using their IP at their leisure. Provided they have a consistent reason as to why they are being struck down. For instance "excluding players or inflicting emotional harm"

[Feidam]

That's problematic then. One would assume that as the owners of the IP they would be able to strike down offending sites using their IP at their leisure. Provided they have a consistent reason as to why they are being struck down.

Well there are some international laws, but it can be problematic. Each country is entitled to their own take on things. However, most countries do try to protect IP’s and copyrights. However the parameters of how strict they are still varies greatly.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So the government sends out cease and desist letters without the company's request?

Edit: I don't understand how the owner of the IP cannot give their blessing to one fan site, but shut down another. Can you please explain further as to why that might be?

Because the defense is based around defending the up. If you say "we don't like this site, and it infringes on our up, but that site is good, even though it infringes on our ip, the judge would throw it out.

[Feidam]

Because the defense is based around defending the up. If you say "we don't like this site, and it infringes on our up, but that site is good, even though it infringes on our ip, the judge would throw it out.

A judge would not make a decision based on how good the site is. The decision is made based on whether it does infringe copyright or damages the IP.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

A judge would not make a decision based on how good the site is. The decision is made based on whether it does infringe copyright or damages the IP.

That's what I mean, SE can't say we like this site so it's OK, but this site we don't like, even though both infringe.