Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Meanwhile the stated reason they don't want people to talk about parsing... its that it will hurt peoples feelings and lead to people being excluded from groups. By my measure, that jp blacklist is actually aimed to do exactly what they are trying to prevent, by punishing people for parsers.

But that site is ok. (◔_◔)

And yet, SE can't take down the site, or interact with it in any way, because it's not infringing on their IP, and I would guess people don't talk about it in game.

They have no control over the website. None.

[WaterShield]

And yet, SE can't take down the site, or interact with it in any way, because it's not infringing on their IP, and I would guess people don't talk about it in game.

They have no control over the website. None.

They could... I dunno... slap them with a lawsuit? They are hosting character names that belong to Square Enix after all.

Alternatively NA could move to using one too.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

They could... I dunno... slap them with a lawsuit? They are hosting character names that belong to Square Enix after all.

Alternatively NA could move to using one too.

In that case, they'd have to take down garlond tools, the glamour websites, fflogs. Every fan site out there. Also, the site would have to be in a country that obeyed copyright laws.

[WaterShield]

In that case, they'd have to take down garlond tools, the glamour websites, fflogs. Every fan site out there. Also, the site would have to be in a country that obeyed copyright laws.

They wouldn't "have" to do anything. They choose, they aren't obligated to take down every fan site.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

They wouldn't "have" to do anything. They choose, they aren't obligated to take down every fan site.

That's not how copyright law works lol. You can't pick and choose.

[WaterShield]

That's not how copyright law works lol. You can't pick and choose.

So the government sends out cease and desist letters without the company's request?

Edit: I don't understand how the owner of the IP cannot give their blessing to one fan site, but shut down another. Can you please explain further as to why that might be?

[Feidam]

So the government sends out cease and desist letters without the company's request?

Edit: I don't understand how the owner of the IP cannot give their blessing to one fan site, but shut down another. Can you please explain further as to why that might be?

It depends on the laws of the country where the sites are located. Some require items to be treated consistently, some have almost no rules. It’s just not a simple process for them to navigate. So it really depends on where they draw the line. And in this case it is items that intercept the data stream or alter the game. The folks using the glamour mods could easily get snagged if SE found out.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So the government sends out cease and desist letters without the company's request?

Edit: I don't understand how the owner of the IP cannot give their blessing to one fan site, but shut down another. Can you please explain further as to why that might be?

Because the defense is based around defending the up. If you say "we don't like this site, and it infringes on our up, but that site is good, even though it infringes on our ip, the judge would throw it out.