Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

wot. Literally, wot. You can't be serious? Are you telling me as a samurai main you don't use a proper rotation or something?

I never said that. Sam's rotation is super simple, the hardest part is the opener as it sets up CD alignment for the future. Again, I don't have anything about my character hidden, feel free to look me up.

[Gwenorai]

I never said that. Sam's rotation is super simple, the hardest part is the opener as it sets up CD alignment for the future. Again, I don't have anything about my character hidden, feel free to look me up.

I'm not going to bother to look you up, but Christ on a stick don't be saying things like that. That information is so wrong it actually hurts.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm not going to bother to look you up, but Christ on a stick don't be saying things like that. That information is so wrong it actually hurts.

LOL. Sure, whatever.

[Veis_Alveare]

but in a pug that info is often used to insult

Literally where? I've seen one instance of this ever in about 3 years of playing and there is often someone in my party who is parsing.

Parsing in this game is like swimming in the ocean with sharks; they're literally always there but attacks are still rare enough to make the news.

If the OP used a parser to insult someone I would be right there with everyone calling for them to be banned... but they didn't so, like most of the discussions going on here, it's pointless.

LOL. Sure, whatever.

"Hypothetically speaking" the sad part is you're actually a good SAM for the content that you're doing and if you looked into the class a bit more you'd be doing even better.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Literally where? I've seen one instance of this ever in about 3 years of playing and there is often someone in my party who is parsing.

Parsing in this game is like swimming in the ocean with sharks; they're literally always there but attacks are still rare enough to make the news.

If the OP used a parser to insult someone I would be right there with everyone calling for them to be banned... but they didn't so, like most of the discussions going on here, it's pointless.



"Hypothetically speaking" the sad part is you're actually a good SAM for the content that you're doing and if you looked into the class a bit more you'd be doing even better.

I don't even play it much anymore lol. I stopped for the most part after sigma scape savage. So my gear doesn't line with with proper stats. I know the openers, and my rotation, because when I was playing I did look it up to optimize for savage. (I never said people shouldn't try to optimize for savage btw, just that SSS iis a fairly good indicator of knowing your job for the average player. Not those pushing savage clears, tho I wouldn't be surprised if even some of the savage players I've been in pugs with couldn't clear the dummies...)

I honestly don't spam fights as much as I did a few months ago, so I don't have the fights down, which is what's hurting me more than anything. I have only 2 suzaku ex clears, and maybe 17-20 on seiryu.


Plus I'm half out of love for the job at the moment. Waiting for the battle changes in the live letter before deciding what job to play in the next expansion.

[Gwenorai]

It's not your numbers that bother me mate; it's saying that all classes but two don't need a guide - which is true; if you're just doing story. But if you want to perform well; then yeah - you need to sit down and do the number crunching and battle theory crafting to even begin to start thinking about doing savage, or any content where you won't be kicked for being dead weight.

That's why I'm like 'wot' - there's a reason most of the top performers in the game are in certain discord where guides and information is shared. That's how the majority gets good. There will always be an outliner, but come on - you can't expect the average casual player to pick up a class, do all the number crunching and the likes themselves in any MMO. And think that they can achieve hard/savage - Ultimate content, without the aid of a guide. You might be able to get away with it in extremes as you can be carried without knowing a full rotation - until someone kicks you for low dps, but still.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It's not your numbers that bother me mate; it's saying that all classes but two don't need a guide - which is true; if you're just doing story. But if you want to perform well; then yeah - you need to sit down and do the number crunching and battle theory crafting to even begin to start thinking about doing savage, or any content where you won't be kicked for being dead weight.

That's why I'm like 'wot' - there's a reason most of the top performers in the game are in certain discord where guides and information is shared. That's how the majority gets good. There will always be an outliner, but come on - you can't expect the average player to pick up a class, do all the number crunching and the likes themselves in any MMO. In especially if they're doing the hard/savage - Ultimate content. You might be able to get away with it in extremes as you can be carried without knowing a full rotation - until someone kicks you for low dps, but still.

Yeah, but most people can't even figure out that the forums exist. You expect them to read rotation guides? How many times do we get posts asking why they can't log in during maintenance times we had a week's notice on.

Most players in this game simply don't care about putting up good numbers, they play for the story and to hang out with friends.

And if they want to go further they can start looking up guides. But they have to want to to do so. Or just make story content harder so they need to get better, but every times that's happened, it's just backlash instead of getting good.

[Gwenorai]

Yeah, but most people can't even figure out that the forums exist. You expect them to read rotation guides? How many times do we get posts asking why they can't log in during maintenance times we had a week's notice on.

Most players in this game simply don't care about putting up good numbers, they play for the story and to hang out with friends.

And if they want to go further they can start looking up guides. But they have to want to to do so. Or just make story content harder so they need to get better, but every times that's happened, it's just backlash instead of getting good.

Aye, will agree with you there. People were already complaining about story content being too difficult in recent patches. Says it all, people need to actually put the effort in.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Aye, will agree with you there. People were already complaining about story content being too difficult in recent patches. Says it all, people need to actually put the effort in.

The easiest way to increase player quality is to simplify the rotations, especially by reducing the number of skills. Unfortunately, that also makes them rather boring to play imo.

[Feidam]

Literally where? I've seen one instance of this ever in about 3 years of playing and there is often someone in my party who is parsing.

Parsing in this game is like swimming in the ocean with sharks; they're literally always there but attacks are still rare enough to make the news.

If the OP used a parser to insult someone I would be right there with everyone calling for them to be banned... but they didn't so, like most of the discussions going on here, it's pointless.



"Hypothetically speaking" the sad part is you're actually a good SAM for the content that you're doing and if you looked into the class a bit more you'd be doing even better.

First everyone’s experience is different. So what you and I have witnessed is not the same and opinions are formed on your gaming history not just one game. Which is why it is all anecdotal unless proof is provided. However, I have witnessed this behavior on more than one occasion. Not all pugs do it, but in my experience in a pug when a parser is cited this is the behavior.

Second I was not saying that the OP did insult anyone or That anyone in his party did so. It was my personal opinion on when parsing goes wrong. You’ll even see if you reread my post I am not against parsing as the whole. However, I also will not feel sorry for anyone if they chose to parse in FFXIV and get a suspension or ban. You know it is against the tos and need to accept the ramifications. However, the OP’s experience of waiting for hours is excessive and needs to be looked at.