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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    The irony of this is that it may tell you that "something" is wrong with your rotation if you fail to clear it, but there's no way of knowing what that something is since the dummy won't tell you. Meanwhile, a log that has a cast-by-cast of what you're doing can be given to someone who knows a role well, and they can pin-point exactly what you're doing wrong.



    I've never been in any Savage PUG group where people insult others about their numbers. But we're discussing anecdotes here, not facts.

    For anyone who wants a clear picture of their performance, SSS is not satisfactory.
    Except, as has been stated, parsing is technically against the ToS, so you would have to look outside the game for help anyway, in that regard, and ps4 players would especially need help there. Someone who fails the test could also look up guides or talk to friends, without even needing a log.

    A log may tell you the fine details, and if someone made small mistakes, sure. You don't need a log to help someone who is doing something fundamentally wrong, like not applying dots, keeping buffs up, or using completely incorrect skills, like thunder 4 on single target, or spamming blizzard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Except, as has been stated, parsing is technically against the ToS, so you would have to look outside the game for help anyway, in that regard, and ps4 players would especially need help there. Someone who fails the test could also look up guides or talk to friends, without even needing a log.

    A log may tell you the fine details, and if someone made small mistakes, sure. You don't need a log to help someone who is doing something fundamentally wrong, like not applying dots, keeping buffs up, or using completely incorrect skills, like thunder 4 on single target, or spamming blizzard.
    You have to do this for standard rotations/optimized openers anyways. This game doesn't tell you anything to help you formulate optimized openers - it's honestly severely lacking in internal resources for improving performances; SSS included in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You have to do this for standard rotations/optimized openers anyways. This game doesn't tell you anything to help you formulate optimized openers - it's honestly severely lacking in internal resources for improving performances; SSS included in this.
    I don't know of any game that tells you how to optomize openers and rotations, xiv is not alone in this regard. To expect this seems rather silly imo.

    The game provides enough information from tool tips to be able to put together at least some semblance of a rotation, and you can formulate an opener based on those tool tips as well.

    I mean, I've never looked up a Bard guide, hadn't played it since I got it to 70 after stormblood, and you can look me up. None of the jobs except mch and smn really need guides on rotations and openers. The only thing Sam benefits from is CD alignment depending on skill speed, so in that regard sure.

    Part of the problem is people just don't even try. How else do you get level 70 players in o10n who run away with stack markers multiple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post

    I mean, I've never looked up a Bard guide, hadn't played it since I got it to 70 after stormblood, and you can look me up. None of the jobs except mch and smn really need guides on rotations and openers. The only thing Sam benefits from is CD alignment depending on skills peed, so in that regard sure.
    wot. Literally, wot. You can't be serious? You're kidding, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    wot. Literally, wot. You can't be serious? Are you telling me as a samurai main you don't use a proper rotation or something?
    I never said that. Sam's rotation is super simple, the hardest part is the opener as it sets up CD alignment for the future. Again, I don't have anything about my character hidden, feel free to look me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I never said that. Sam's rotation is super simple, the hardest part is the opener as it sets up CD alignment for the future. Again, I don't have anything about my character hidden, feel free to look me up.
    I'm not going to bother to look you up, but Christ on a stick don't be saying things like that. That information is so wrong it actually hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I'm not going to bother to look you up, but Christ on a stick don't be saying things like that. That information is so wrong it actually hurts.
    LOL. Sure, whatever.
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