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  1. #201
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    KokonoeAiyoko's Avatar
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    Pomf-pomf Footahnaree
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    Balmung
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    Just modify Stone, Sky, Sea a way to measure DPS output like a parser would.

    Solves the problem of people not having a legit way to parse but also solves SE's fear of it being used to bully people in parties cause you have to actually go out of your way and on your lonesome to participate in it.
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  2. #202
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Just modify Stone, Sky, Sea a way to measure DPS output like a parser would.

    Solves the problem of people not having a legit way to parse but also solves SE's fear of it being used to bully people in parties cause you have to actually go out of your way and on your lonesome to participate in it.
    That doesn’t really solve the issue because now you’re seeing a number with zero consideration for party buffs. For a job like BRD or MCH that are reliant on other job(s) for a portion of their damage, this is an inaccurate representation of what you’re capable of/the damage you’d actually be doing in a Savage fight.
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  3. #203
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Just modify Stone, Sky, Sea a way to measure DPS output like a parser would.

    Solves the problem of people not having a legit way to parse but also solves SE's fear of it being used to bully people in parties cause you have to actually go out of your way and on your lonesome to participate in it.
    I agree it is a band-aid but anyone can perform the perfect rotation with zero pressure. However when you have to dodge, do mechanics, change targets, switch to AOE, manage your buffs/potions. Most will start to slip and this is why so many people like the parsers because it lets them know they are staying on top of it all and performing the best they can.
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  4. #204
    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    But that just the thing. Life isnt fair look while I feel for the player getting a ban the fact of the matter is THEY CHOSE to use third party software in direct violation of the Terms of Service was the punishment harsh absolutely. However what you as people are saying is that if someone breaks rules knowingly they shouldnt be punished by that logic string nobody should be punished for anything they ever did knowingly.

    Can you see the problem with that line of thinking? That said Maybe I'd have gone with time served since they could do nothing anyways for four hours.
    You're ignoring the pick-and-choose mentality SE is using to enforce a (completely stupid and pointless) rule.

    Imagine you're driving and the speed limit is 65mph. You do 70 because everyone is doing 70, not doing 70 would literally be impeding the flow of traffic. You're harming no one, in the middle of a big pack of cars all going the same speed with no issue... and you get pulled over. Just you

    Does that seem unfair? If you've got any common sense at all the answer is yes.

    Punishing people for things that just plain aren't enforceable is dumb. Punishing people for things that don't impact the game or other players of enjoyment of the game is dumb. Punishing people for picking up the slack and implementing a system to cover an obvious gap left by SE themselves is monumentally stupid.
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  5. #205
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    You're ignoring the pick-and-choose mentality SE is using to enforce a (completely stupid and pointless) rule.

    Imagine you're driving and the speed limit is 65mph. You do 70 because everyone is doing 70, not doing 70 would literally be impeding the flow of traffic. You're harming no one, in the middle of a big pack of cars all going the same speed with no issue... and you get pulled over. Just you

    Does that seem unfair? If you've got any common sense at all the answer is yes.

    Punishing people for things that just plain aren't enforceable is dumb. Punishing people for things that don't impact the game or other players of enjoyment of the game is dumb. Punishing people for picking up the slack and implementing a system to cover an obvious gap left by SE themselves is monumentally stupid.
    Except it is enforceable as the case in point has proven. Secondly there literally is nothing a parser does that Picks up slack. It's a simple packet scan that produces a number layout so you can read everyone's numbers, not something you actively need to be able to play, nothing it does cant really be figured out by your own brain, as to your improvement or lack thereof.

    1. Memorise the fight once you do that you know when you're going to have to move with relative ease this ensures you aren't examining floor particles. Hey look at that DPS picked up right there, no death, proper movement DPS gain.
    2. Know your rotation. Once you got your rotation understood you'll be able to maintain for those times when you have to move. Once more DPS Increases.
    3. Constantly Optimise. Streamline your movements tighten them so you're only needing to do a minimum of movement before you can get back to dealing damage keep your gear melded even if you're planning to replace it asap eat the proper food, have the proper potion going.etc.etc.

    Constant practice and due diligence. a parser is just going to give you data but it's not going to improve your ability.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  6. #206
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    Constant practice and due diligence. a parser is just going to give you data but it's not going to improve your ability.
    ACT does, though. That's why world firsters use it. It tells you well in advance of mechanics. Sure, you still have to remember what to do for each mechanic, but it "takes the edge off" in terms of needing to remember timing. So it very much does give an advantage and will improve someone's play.
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  7. #207
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    maybe I will ask my friends to report me for using a parser and I will mention it in chat. Going on vacation soon anyways worth a try maybe.
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  8. #208
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    ACT does, though. That's why world firsters use it. It tells you well in advance of mechanics. Sure, you still have to remember what to do for each mechanic, but it "takes the edge off" in terms of needing to remember timing. So it very much does give an advantage and will improve someone's play.
    Wait it tells you what mechanics are coming up before they happen? Like I get joining voice chat where a player helps with callouts but having software that does it seems to start to boarder on cheating since it gives an advantage over people who don't use third party software or people on PS4.
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  9. #209
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    ACT does, though. That's why world firsters use it. It tells you well in advance of mechanics. Sure, you still have to remember what to do for each mechanic, but it "takes the edge off" in terms of needing to remember timing. So it very much does give an advantage and will improve someone's play.
    So cheating in other words.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  10. #210
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    Raul Prower
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    Exodus
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
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    I too am not a huge fan of that, but it's something you have to download/set up separately.

    Personally I just want to know my numbers and see what I did during a fight so that I can do better next time.
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