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  1. #61
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    Shaiden Nightfall
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    it's "kid", not "kids".
    haha???.... i think the op wants to play as teenagers like sora and riku from kingdom hearts. no one actually wants to play as a 5 year old. our only option for young guys are the cats. The rest are old rough and ready to retire
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  2. #62
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    its true no huge amount of time has happened
    the twins are still 16
    Yeah no, I'm not accepting that.

    If we include boat travel and walking distance between areas since the start of 2.1, it's been longer than 6 months. If anything, I'd say up until now, it has been 2-4 years in game time since the start of ARR.

    For SB, if we take the rebuilding of Doma as an example, just from our weekly allotted limit for donations, it has been at least 3-4 months since the end of 4.0 to the end of 4.55. Add in the logical several months of sea travel from Limsa to Kugane, as well as the logical time frames needed for storyline events to occur during 4.0 outside of the boat trip, and we're looking at probably a full year for the storyline of SB, from 4.0 to 4.55.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Yeah no, I'm not accepting that.

    If we include boat travel and walking distance between areas since the start of 2.1, it's been longer than 6 months. If anything, I'd say up until now, it has been 2-4 years in game time since the start of ARR.

    For SB, if we take the rebuilding of Doma as an example, just from our weekly allotted limit for donations, it has been at least 3-4 months since the end of 4.0 to the end of 4.55. Add in the logical several months of sea travel from Limsa to Kugane, as well as the logical time frames needed for storyline events to occur during 4.0 outside of the boat trip, and we're looking at probably a full year for the storyline of SB, from 4.0 to 4.55.
    SE has always been finnicky with their timescape. The only definitive times we've been given were at the start of ARR and everything since then has been up to interpretation with no official word. Occasionally we get a few bones on how long travel might take, like how riding full tilt from Gridania to Horizon on a chocobo without stopping takes a day, but other than that we have nothing. I'm personally in the 'it's been years' camp, but without SE providing an actual concrete timeline it's unlikely we'll ever know for sure.
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  4. #64
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Yeah no, I'm not accepting that.

    If we include boat travel and walking distance between areas since the start of 2.1, it's been longer than 6 months. If anything, I'd say up until now, it has been 2-4 years in game time since the start of ARR.
    The amount of time that has "logically passed" is irrelevant. The story is in a 'time bubble'. For official timekeeping purposes, time in the game never progresses.

    It's not that the story has taken place in a short amount of time, but that you'll never see the passage of that time reflected within the game. Characters don't get older, seasons don't pass, the world doesn't move on and change unless the immediate story causes it to do so.
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  5. #65
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Yeah no, I'm not accepting that.
    SE won't ever say how much time has passed, but they do want you to imagine how much has passed.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    If we include...
    Trying to calculate and imagine for yourself is exactly what they want you to do.

    As long as the timeframe you think has passed makes sense to you, go with it.
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  6. #66
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    The community rep/dev was wrong.

    [I]Before the "Its a dev, youre a player, you cant be right", hear
    That community rep/ dev is one of the key members behind the lore of the game. He even writes a lot of the lyrics to the songs used in game. He IS the lore master so no he is not wrong. Hell he even created the dragon language and naming conventions for the races. BTW when you hear the song for moogle primal you're hearing him and a few other dev's sing. I'm speaking about Fern.... not anon though anon is very invested and knowledgable about the lore. Even figuring certain things out about stuff before it was actually revealed.


    But to the topic, I'm honestly glad we are not able to make child pcs. Especially due to the fact that we've already seen one miserable out come on what happens when nothing but children are left to stop a calamity from taking place. We have the 13th shard/ the void as a perfect example.
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    Last edited by Rannie; 05-13-2019 at 12:58 PM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  7. #67
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    KokonoeAiyoko's Avatar
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    Even if you ignore the what SE staff has stated on this subject and consider Alphinaud like 18 or something, it still doesn't change the fact that he looks like a kid still.

    Unless we're gonna start going into 1,000 year old loli territory.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Even if you ignore the what SE staff has stated on this subject and consider Alphinaud like 18 or something, it still doesn't change the fact that he looks like a kid still.

    Unless we're gonna start going into 1,000 year old loli territory.
    Pretty sure Elezen age slower than the rest of the races. I don't have my lorebook handy but I do think that was part of their blurb. Though I might be mixing that up with them living /slightly/ longer.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Pretty sure Elezen age slower than the rest of the races. I don't have my lorebook handy but I do think that was part of their blurb. Though I might be mixing that up with them living /slightly/ longer.
    Well the point being that even if there's lore reasons, it doesn't really matter what happens in the lore. Alphinaud looks like a kid, that's what's gonna matter to people looking on the outside of this game or just in general.

    Like let's say they let you play as Alphinaud in the world and people had did certain types of roleplaying, he'd still have the appearance of a child regardless of whichever age he potentially was. It'd still be weird.

    Though that said, FFXI let you transform into monsters and kids and this wasn't a issue so they might be over worrying.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Well the point being that even if there's lore reasons, it doesn't really matter what happens in the lore. Alphinaud looks like a kid, that's what's gonna matter to people looking on the outside of this game or just in general.

    Like let's say they let you play as Alphinaud in the world and people had did certain types of roleplaying, he'd still have the appearance of a child regardless of whichever age he potentially was. It'd still be weird.

    Though that said, FFXI let you transform into monsters and kids and this wasn't a issue so they might be over worrying.
    Oh nah, I'm not arguing on that count. Just pointing out the lore as my tired brain remembers it.
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