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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    I have all the information I need. They had to guess at what specifically was done, as all they gave them was a vague line.

    Real world example: You stand accused of committing robbery... somewhere... at some time... at some day.... maybe with or without a weapon.... yeah you don't need to know any details of what you stand accused of JAIL!

    Imagine trying to defend yourself in a court of law with... I think they are talking about this??? Prosecution is being vague.
    you assume they were being vague. You havent seen a transcript, or a log, or a screenshot. you have no idea what the gm told him, or what he asked the gm. The player never even claimed the gm hid information.

    My point is, you have virtually no information, you are assuming a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    you assume they were being vague. You havent seen a transcript, or a log, or a screenshot. you have no idea what the gm told him, or what he asked the gm. The player never even claimed the gm hid information.

    My point is, you have virtually no information, you are assuming a lot.
    Similar to you all assuming that he deserves the ban with little detail about the situation? Also, my point is simply to raise CONCERN. I can't claim with 100% certainty that they are or are not guilty.... but neither can you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Similar to you all assuming that he deserves the ban with little detail about the situation? Also, my point is simply to raise CONCERN. I can't claim with 100% certainty that they are or are not guilty.... but neither can you.
    i am assuming nothing

    i know he was banned for using 3rd party software, which is illegal. He never debates this.

    you assume that he was banned for old logs he may have uploaded at some point in time, which may have been reported. You assume he was given an unfair punishment, and you arent even sure what the crime is, because the poster never actually told you what it was. You have virtually no details, even assuming the poster is truthful, and you claim its an unfair sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    i am assuming nothing

    i know he was banned for using 3rd party software, which is illegal. He never debates this.

    you assume that he was banned for old logs he may have uploaded at some point in time, which may have been reported. You assume he was given an unfair punishment, and you arent even sure what the crime is, because the poster never actually told you what it was. You have virtually no details, even assuming the poster is truthful, and you claim its an unfair sentence.
    You assume sitting in the gaol for hours with no communication and then given a 10 day ban for a first offense is a fair punishment. I disagree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield;4978204du
    You assume sitting in the gaol for hours with no communication and then given a 10 day ban for a first offense is a fair punishment. I disagree with that.
    that wouldnt be an assumption, and i never claimed that.

    Sitting in jail for 4 hours seems excessive. But i dont really know the details of that aspect. I would guess its an error, but i dont know. Thats not really the part im debating

    a 10 day ban for a first offense of third party software use for botting is normal. I don't know if its normal for parse use, but the poster never actually said he wasnt botting.

    i wouldnt be surprised if any third party software use was a mandatory 10 day ban though, since it violates the same part of the tos.
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