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  1. #4471
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    its interesting that people think yoshi recent statement was like a nail in the coffin to male viera and female Hroth
    but its still in the same place it was before that statement
    a definite maybe.
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  2. #4472
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    SoloWingMetatron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    I did read and I did say you even said so yourself in my post. I was just saying Or tryign to say I think it's unfair to past judgement cause we don't know the details which could be why he gave the reply he did. But if I'm misunderstanding anything my bad.
    No worries and I'm sorry if I was dismissive of your reply, it's easy to get tired of people jumping in to defend the devs...which is cool, but then fail to produce any receipts to make up their defense. At which point it's not a debate or even a discussion...it's individuals grasping to try and shoot others down.

    However I appreciate what you say and I think I too misunderstood the intent behind your reply. I totally agree with what you're saying and I don't think he made his statement as a means to try and pull the wool over our eyes. I simply think there's not much he can say or do at this time but felt he had to say at least something....which I understand. As I say my only issue is with some of the misleading content in his statement, which is only fueling people to shoot down those who are simply saying "Hey you know those missing genders?....they'd be cool to have sometime".
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    Last edited by SoloWingMetatron; 05-12-2019 at 01:35 AM.

  3. #4473
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    No worries and I'm sorry if I was dismissive of your reply, it's easy to get tired of people jumping in to defend the devs...which is cool, but then fail to produce any receipts to make up their defense. At which point it's not a debate or even a discussion...it's individuals grasping to try and shoot others down.

    However I appreciate what you say and I think I too misunderstood the intent behind your reply. I totally agree with what you're saying and I don't think he made his statement as a means to try and pull the wool over our eyes. I simply think there;s not much he can so or do at this time but felt he had to say at least something....which I understand. As I say my only issue is with some of the misleading content in his statement, which is only fueling people to shoot down those who are simply saying "may you know those missing genders?....they'd be cool to have sometime".
    Yay understanding. Tho seriously after rerereading I get where you're coming from honestly, Sadly I think alot of the lingo in the post can come off as >.> eyes as he didn't really directly say no or yes. It was a PR statement as you say to cover his butt so they can lean either way. Which would be fine but all the drama and emotions people have make it into the shout fest it's been on various sites. And sadly the only way I can see everyone being relaxed is if he were to go - buck it- and spill all the beans which would end his career for sure. Corp. is a dirty buisness for sure.
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  4. #4474
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    BastienWyngarden's Avatar
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    A few friends and I were talking about the producer letter recently. They’re in the female hrothgar camp, and they do feel that the letter was the nail in the coffin. As such, they’ve suspended their subscriptions to the game until full implementation of the genders. It is sad, but I’ve also considered doing the same.
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  5. #4475
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    Quote Originally Posted by BastienWyngarden View Post
    A few friends and I were talking about the producer letter recently. They’re in the female hrothgar camp, and they do feel that the letter was the nail in the coffin. As such, they’ve suspended their subscriptions to the game until full implementation of the genders. It is sad, but I’ve also considered doing the same.
    I take the letter as this "It's on the table" it is not a yes but it is not a no either which is actually a better outcome than i thought as i didn't expect to hear something like this till 5.1, the fact he used far more assertive language with regards to having child like characters playable within the same letter shows there is a least a potential to see the other genders being added (I just hope not in the same way as egi-glamours).

    With that said i hope that if you suspend your sub as well that you and your friends will eventually come back with being able to play as the race/gender combo you want to play as
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  6. #4476
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    they're not saying no because they're doing it but saving it for later. either "look guys, we listened!" or it's just something they're saving as a selling point for 6.0 or whatever in the future.
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  7. #4477
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    You can tell in the letter that its not a straight up no or never like you can with the "playable children" section.
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  8. #4478
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    Liokki Rehw-setlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fei-yen View Post
    Exactly. And the topic itself is so cheap (for just a glamour) I don't know anymore if it's a kind of fetish with those people enjoying getting bullied or just a total absence of interest about the game itself and its future and just willing to sit in Limsa and RP/ERP or showing off their glam. Glad dev team isn't going to feed this rotten side of the community, they're a few, but they're very vocal and I believe they think showing off their RP skills with their walls of text while trying to argument their reasons will help them to transform those from crap to cakes.

    Problem is even now Yoshi-P told people again this heinousness won't happen, they start to build their tricky RP castles in their own brains feeding something that doesn't exist in reality. Will be my last post on this thread as I am a gentleman wishing people not getting bullied and so wishing for this thread to disappear slowly in the next weeks/months.

    There's literally no in-game reasons to not get a gender-lock race. All those are extra and related to RP, ERP and glamour show-off nobody cares about (or should) when it comes to videogames. For sure doesn't help the game to get better, so stop with this #$*8%!
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  9. #4479
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    they're not saying no because they're doing it but saving it for later. either "look guys, we listened!" or it's just something they're saving as a selling point for 6.0 or whatever in the future.
    I myself I am studying marketing, and as such I think this letter is to get people to 'forgive' them for not finishing the new races yet. That is due to the fact that not tonly did he use this to talk about glasses, but also he didn't really give a response to anything other than children erp. I think he did that mostly because he is trying to save the response for when the other genders come out so he can say: :Hey people! It was super tough to implement them but now in 6.0 you'll be able to play as male Viera and female hrotgar' which is a trick to gain more praise and good press for doing this
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  11. #4480
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    Kaien Mikazuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    This one?

    Would really love it if we could get something like this for male viera.
    I WOULD LOVE THIS❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
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