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  1. #4421
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I already heard your opinion on it, and you disagree. That's fine. We can at least entertain the idea. Let others explain why or why not they would be ok with slower patches.

    We could also talk about content we wouldn't mind doing without. Someone said eureka.
    That seems to be going into controversial territory. There's content in this game I dislike, though I would not wish for it to be sacrificed or delayed for the sake of Viera men and/or Hrothgar women. I want them to be added at some point though not in such a heavy handed manner.
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  2. #4422
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
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    Controversial topics are ok as long as people are respectful. Disagreements are ok.
    For example, I personally could do without BLU in its current state if it meant male viera would be added to the game.
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  3. #4423
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    He said more money or staff wasn't the issue. It was a QA and bugging issue. From what I understand, you disagree with Yoshida on this point?

    It seems like the main concern is if male viera is being worked on, patches would come out slower. For those of us who would not be bothered by slower patches, we should voice this opinion in this thread. To anyone reading this, simply say slower patches will not bother you if it meant male viera and female hrothgar will get implemented so the forum staff can relay this feedback.
    QA and Bugging is a man power issue, which is fixed by hiring more people IF you wanted to maintain production rates. Which requires more money. Unless hes making the argument that they need to hire hundreds of people, I think that hes not being very upfront on this. Im well aware there are some things you cant 'throw money at' to make happen, but this is not one of those issues.
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  4. #4424
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Controversial topics are ok as long as people are respectful. Disagreements are ok.
    For example, I personally could do without BLU in its current state if it meant male viera would be added to the game.
    Also a very valid opinion.
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  5. #4425
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
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    What you say could be possible. I don't know how these things work lol
    If what you say is the case, why do you think Yoshida said what he did? Budget?
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  6. #4426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    QA and Bugging is a man power issue, which is fixed by hiring more people IF you wanted to maintain production rates. Which requires more money. Unless hes making the argument that they need to hire hundreds of people, I think that hes not being very upfront on this. Im well aware there are some things you cant 'throw money at' to make happen, but this is not one of those issues.
    This is the biggest red flag in Yoshi's statement because it's simply not true.

    QA and bug testing are tasks handled by the QA department of any games company....they are a team of people hired for the sole purpose of carrying out Quality Assurance and bug testing tasks. It is a totally separate department and field of work that artists will seldom take part in, other than fix any bugs/anomalies found by the QA team.

    So it is an irrefutable fact that money and man power is exactly how that problem is solved!...
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  7. #4427
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    People saying 3.5 months is a long patch time are vastly off-base. A major patch every 3 1/2 month for a game as big in content as FFXIV is sort of insane and I'm shocked that they're trying to keep that tempo. I agree with the others that quality will suffer -- in this instance, we have a direct example of quality suffering (incomplete races, no headgear, etc). This quality hit will only get worse as time goes on, if they stick to 3 1/2 month development cycles.

    As a game gets bigger, the time between major patches should increase also. When you make a nonlinear change in the game, you have to check everything out and quite often change lots of minor things that were developed before.
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  8. #4428
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    Quote Originally Posted by niteypants View Post
    People saying 3.5 months is a long patch time are vastly off-base. A major patch every 3 1/2 month for a game as big in content as FFXIV is sort of insane and I'm shocked that they're trying to keep that tempo. I agree with the others that quality will suffer -- in this instance, we have a direct example of quality suffering (incomplete races, no headgear, etc). This quality hit will only get worse as time goes on, if they stick to 3 1/2 month development cycles.

    As a game gets bigger, the time between major patches should increase also. When you make a nonlinear change in the game, you have to check everything out and quite often change lots of minor things that were developed before.
    They shouldn't have added any new races if they will impact the continued development of the game.... or hire more people.... but profits....
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  9. #4429
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    They shouldn't have added any new races if they will impact the continued development of the game.... or hire more people.... but profits....
    I'm in agreement. Expanding the customisation options for the existing playable races would have been a much better idea. Fantasia sells like hotcakes, though...and although a free fantasia was offered alongside Heavensward to accompany the Au Ra, we're not getting a fantasia to accompany Viera women and Hrothgar men. Which is a little worrying for a number of reasons since I recall the early days of ARR and how often completely free perks were thrown at players who proved themselves loyal to the game through consistent subscriptions.
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  10. #4430
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    Keaira Tieraal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    They shouldn't have added any new races if they will impact the continued development of the game.... or hire more people.... but profits....
    So, they are damned it they do and damned if they don't? FFS people, make up your minds. He gave valid reasons, and left the door open for a possibility. Get over it. 400+ pages of this entitled whine fest is enough, don't ya think?
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