Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
Thing that Myste was trying to point out is that no matter what you do as teh WoL, there is blood on your hands. You kill all who oppose you pretty indiscriminately, and all those who ally with you die just the same. No matter what you do, you're surrounded by death. Myste represents that aspect that youre always at the center of people dying for some reason or another, and perhaps its your fault in some weird self defeating way as youre perpetuating the cycle by existing.
Though, that line of thought is flawed too.

Since, we're surrounded by death... Because we're actually taking part in trying to save the world.

We could literally, retire and spend our days fishing in Limsa Lominsa and no-one would die because of us (Well... Except all the fish we catch). But we don't. We go take down the bad people who seek to bring about the deaths of countless innocents, killing them when its necessary (If we take the Black Mage quests at face value, Mr Catboi gets mad at us because instead of merely incapacitating people like we usually do, the people we took out died (Note: This was not our fault and it was actually the fact that these people were practicing Black Magic without Soul Crystals and so had literally burned their souls as a result)).

While also, being on the frontlines, with allies, some of whom die because we can't save everyone (With really, the biggest guilt trip being Hauchefant because, due to us not being fully aware of our surroundings, he ended up sacrificing himself to protect us) even though, we often do try and that's what the entire DRK questlines have been about before SB, using the Abyss to protect others.

Like, the initial quests for DRK from level 30-50, it's all about us not giving into the darkness and using the power we unlock for good, not to cause harm. It's the reason why we ended up having to fight Fray/our Darkside to assert our control over the power and not succumb to being evil - Which is why we get pardoned from the crime of heresy due to our whole "Talking to corpses" thing, because everyone there knows that we're inherently good and that despite the fact we've been dabbling in dark arts, they know that we'll be using these "Evil" powers for good.

With the 50-60 quests being all about Sid discovering that he walks the path to protect those he cares about (That being Rielle) instead of just revelling in combat. Heck, we even get asked the question of why we walk the path and have options that are basically "To protect my friends/family/innocents"

So... Why is Myste trying to point out that we're "Killing" people? When, literally all the quests prior have being about reinforcing the fact that we aren't bloodthirsty and literally want to just use our powers to protect others? With other people's deaths being of their own volition as they sacrificed themselves for the greater good (Moenbryda, Papalymo, Hauchefant, Ysayle. Technically, Gosetsu at that point as it wasn't until a later patch did we get the quests where he and Tsuyu returned), only one of those deaths was directly related to us - The others were for us AND our allies.

Also... Again... It would have made far more sense and had a far larger impact if Myste simply brought out Hauchefant. The person who died because we weren't observant enough. Who died to protect US, when as a DRK, we have always been about protecting OTHERS.

Rather than trying to put together this weak point about our "Killing of others" (By summoning 2 people whom, we didn't kill and would have died even if we weren't there Since, Sid would have hunted down Ystride alone to protect Rielle and it was all part of Ilberd's plan to kill himself to summon Shinryu) and then commenting about how "People who ally with us keep dying" without actually showing anything at all that would prove that (Which, I guess is due to the fact that literally, only Hauchefant died as a result of us...)

Like, Myste's point is that people have died, lots of people and they deserve a chance to live again. So his plan is to absorb the aether from beasts and create the simulacrum of everyone who has ever died so they can continue to "Live" so no-one need say farewell.

He also accuses us of being overcome by our Darkside with a taste for blood (When he says "...Shall I ask you the same? Who holds the reins?" to the question "Say your name, your real name")

To which Fray ends up stepping in BECAUSE we refused to succumb to our Darkside and outright kill Myste. As he mentions "...A compromise, I suppose? Our dear friend here refused to let me take the reins, but I wasn't about to stand idly by while that imbecile tries to do...whatever it was he was trying to do." (After Sid states "What in the seven hells is this!?" after he appears)

Meanwhile, the ironic thing about it, is that Rielle of all people is the one who makes sense when she responds to Myste's question "But what of the lost? Do they not deserve to live again?" by stating:

"They do. In our hearts and our souls and our memories. No one likes having to say good-bye. But it's...it's a part of life. That's what makes the time we share together so precious... You can't obsess over the mistakes of the past, or you'll lose sight of the future. Of the people still with us, who need us more than ever."

Emphasis on that last part, which is literally the only part of the SB questline that actually makes sense after the HW quests. Since it's talking about protecting those that we care about, the literal theme of DRK quests up until SB when it randomly became about this weird Aether-Vampire and his dream of a world full of ghosts because... People die and that's unfair?