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  1. #20441
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    ValidFlea's Avatar
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    Sylas Lanquairt
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    I mean, technically that's true since Ultimatum is the only AOE version they get, which does have a long recast timer.
    Yeah, I have 0 idea on tank abilities but I definitely know that I shouldn't pull hate from casting 2 cures in a trash pack. lol.
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  2. #20442
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    Roda's Avatar
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    The only reason why class-only players were an acceptable gimmick is because you could've done comparable damage back in the day with cross class abilities.
    Now that we have role actions, you're not being funny or clever or cute, you're being carried. Not only is it a tired joke, it's an annoying one.


    rant rant rant >:[
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  3. #20443
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Lucana Wyght
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ValidFlea View Post
    Yeah, I have 0 idea on tank abilities but I definitely know that I shouldn't pull hate from casting 2 cures in a trash pack. lol.
    That may be the only aoe TAUNT but every tank has an aoe move that does extra enmity. Flash (and circle of scorn but that has a cooldown) for paladin for example.
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  4. #20444
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Tanking O12N as a WHM.
    Tanking Omega-F as a WHM for a solid 30 seconds because neither tank wanted to pick her up.
    Eating Optimized Battledance as a WHM because tank lost aggro after I’ve already used Lucid to dump my aggro (and no, I am not an overhealer).


    Everything is fine.
    There are no issues here.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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  5. #20445
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Tanking O12N as a WHM.
    Tanking Omega-F as a WHM for a solid 30 seconds because neither tank wanted to pick her up.
    Eating Optimized Battledance as a WHM because tank lost aggro after I’ve already used Lucid to dump my aggro (and no, I am not an overhealer).


    Everything is fine.
    There are no issues here.
    Sue.. them.. ALL. That is not even kool.
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  6. #20446
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Lucana Wyght
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Tanking O12N as a WHM.
    Tanking Omega-F as a WHM for a solid 30 seconds because neither tank wanted to pick her up.
    Eating Optimized Battledance as a WHM because tank lost aggro after I’ve already used Lucid to dump my aggro (and no, I am not an overhealer).


    Everything is fine.
    There are no issues here.
    Maybe you had one of those 'tanks' that doesn't like tanking and goes into raids/trials expecting to make the other one do it all, then 'oops both people have to actually tank in this fight' happened.

    Is it odd if I always pop tempered will on that final Omega F knockback so I'm always the one to tank her?
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  7. #20447
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    Anira-chu's Avatar
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    Character
    Arisme Faelysta
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    stories from 2 Trial roulettes, ft. me as Drk and my friend as RDM

    1st Nidhogg

    You could already see that there was an amount of new people due to them watching all the cutscene. Fine by me, my friend and I dropped some advice at the beginning. so far so good. I just didn't expected it end up with alot of wipes. I just know before we managed it finally, we only had 20mins left there.
    Being new is one thing, but not paying attention another. Most of them died everytime Nidhogg flew away and made his big fly aoe. I also had to beg to MT, because the other Tank (not even using darkside while being in grit) didn't manage to hold aggro at all and the big dragon went on a nice merry-go-round, cleaving others. I got to mt, but for some reason at our last try, they just went into grit and spammed aggro and made the group be cleaved. I don't get what that was for
    Not only that, one of the healers really didn't went out of bad. AT. ALL. they rather kept casting a cure. That cure will not help much if you die anyway... also, we could have prevented a wipe if they had LB in their bar. No idea why you wouldn't have your LB button in your hotbar at lvl 60, but mkay.
    People keep dying left and right for not running out of bad, I dunno, it just starts to be frustrating. I really have patient to help people but if some people aren't willing to learn.. what shall I do?


    2nd Bismarck
    One healer down, I tank the adds, I got no heals, I die. My co-tank took the adds, died aswell. Both of us did nothing wrong in tanking and both of us just died due to lack of healing. None of us stood in aoes. It's nice if a healer gets all hostile, because they can't admit they couldn't hold us alive. If I don't get heals, I point it out. I was not even rude or mad, I was just directly saying that it would help if I get healed next time, since this was the reason both of us died on the adds. (I may have not even said anything if it wasn't for the fact my co-tank just died too...). Well, then I may be "salty" I guess //shrug. being that hostile is kinda hilarious to me tbh.
    but not only the healer, another person scoled my friend for using LB... while no one else used LB. We had one melee and they didn't used LB at Bismarcks last phase. You can avoid second add phase like that so she had all right using it if no one else dares to. And in all honest, that didn't even changed anything or was any cause for a wipe or whatever, I don't even get why one person got mad over it that she used it.


    I could squeeze a third story, but that can be summarized in "for some reason, alot of lvl 70 Tanks don't know how to hold aggro at all and all dps are crying in the background, trying to get that aggro bar down".

    sorry for typos, 4am isn't the best time but I felt like telling these stories.
    have a good night!
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  8. #20448
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    DF alliance raid, and somehow they put me as MT despite i keep saying i dont want it, its not about my class being PLD, i never been in this raid (so i dont know anything about the boss or the mechanic), and i have zero knowledge of being MT in raid, this is the very first time i play total blind as tank in raid and they just told me to go MT?

    ok i do it. 1st boss down 1 wipe, 2nd boss down another 1 wipe, 3rd boss... 2 wipes and this one warrior guy start vote kick me out and everyone agree.

    wtf is wrong with people? is my chat invisible or what?
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  9. #20449
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    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Autumn Stardust
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    DF alliance raid, and somehow they put me as MT despite i keep saying i dont want it, its not about my class being PLD, i never been in this raid (so i dont know anything about the boss or the mechanic), and i have zero knowledge of being MT in raid, this is the very first time i play total blind as tank in raid and they just told me to go MT?

    ok i do it. 1st boss down 1 wipe, 2nd boss down another 1 wipe, 3rd boss... 2 wipes and this one warrior guy start vote kick me out and everyone agree.

    wtf is wrong with people? is my chat invisible or what?
    1. Don’t join as a tank if you aren’t prepared to tank, regardless of experience with that duty.
    2. A warrior couldn’t have started a vote kick on you since you’d be in separate alliances.
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  10. #20450
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    DF alliance raid, and somehow they put me as MT despite i keep saying i dont want it, its not about my class being PLD, i never been in this raid (so i dont know anything about the boss or the mechanic), and i have zero knowledge of being MT in raid, this is the very first time i play total blind as tank in raid and they just told me to go MT?

    ok i do it. 1st boss down 1 wipe, 2nd boss down another 1 wipe, 3rd boss... 2 wipes and this one warrior guy start vote kick me out and everyone agree.

    wtf is wrong with people? is my chat invisible or what?
    Your server shows as Tonberry, that is a JP datacenter no?

    If you were alliance B then I think we have our answer because unless I have heard wrong alliance B is always main tank. Also if you queue up for a duty as a tank be expected to tank. I've tanked an Orbonne before where my party gets sucked into the doom room on the second boss. Know which tank took over while I was in there? Neither of them.

    If you don't want to MT then play another role to get more insight into mechanics (or watch a guide in your spare time).
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