New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[Paladinleeds]

Lol your argument is so full of it. You just can't fathom the idea of good practices to bring in new players.

But *shrug* okay, you keep being ignorant. I'm not going to waste my time.

While I can definitely agree to chucking in a Stormblood story skip as part of the expansion as a good business practice (perhaps with pointers to Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High and stuff for levelling, since I'm almost certain the ARR/HW story skips include POTD), I just think that Square Enix won't do it, as it won't seemingly help their numbers. Therein lies my main issue. It just doesn't look financially viable to Square Enix, and apparently the only reason we got them in the first place is because the Chinese version had them. The NA/EU/JP versions AFAIK weren't supposed to even get them. As a result, Square Enix don't want to give one away for free. It sucks, but it is what it is I guess. The reason I can agree to this, is because it preserves the story for those interested in it (such as myself), while also allowing newbies who don't care much for the story to also get stuck in, as well as those who want to get to endgame and look at the story later thanks to NG+. I don't know any other solutions that could make a variety of different parties happy

No, I would rather have a happy medium with and improved, streamlined new player experience. NOT a complete skip - so that new players can actually go back, and do the story, that gets so over hyped here (I have played through it, read, and never skipped any cutscenes except for in a duty). Having the starting experience restructured, and a new, informative, tutorial for players.

Now you see, I can agree with a more streamlined experience, so long as there's still the meaning behind each duty. Perhaps trimming the fat on some of the quests (e.g. the 2.1-2.55 shenanigans), for a more streamlined experience, but one that doesn't detract from the story (such as why we're going into each duty). That is a happy medium I can accept.

[SturmChurro]

So you don't like the game

I hate it actually. I also have imaginary friends, and I am insecure.

Now you see, I can agree with a more streamlined experience, so long as there's still the meaning behind each duty. Perhaps trimming the fat on some of the quests (e.g. the 2.1-2.55 shenanigans), for a more streamlined experience, but one that doesn't detract from the story (such as why we're going into each duty). That is a happy medium I can accept.

Yes, a reasonable response. I would rather see a streamlined experience so that new players coming in can come to enjoy the game we have, the way we do now. Think about this in a couple years time with another expansion, or longer maybe two, and they still only have story skip? Do you think it is a sustainable practice to have a player play through 4 expansions just to get to current, relevent content (level, new abilities, new jobs, new glamour, new mounts, play with friends, raids, trials)? Have them pay 60 dollars for the game plus current expansion, 15 for a sub, 25 for a skip, and maybe even a level boost?

For more veteran players a new streamlined new player experience literally wouldn't effect anyone, except those people who like to go back on an alt and slowly "enjoy" each and every story bit (selfish if you ask me). However, I think the streamlined experience should be included with a boost, and someone who chooses to play from the start should be able to. Clarification [EDIT]