Tank entitlement vs group entitlement

[Hash_Browns]

I've always felt big pulls were fine the higher level dungeon you were in, but when these Tanks try to pull like that in the early dungeons it usually causes more confusion than helps anything. The first story dungeon is a great example. The area where a bunch of enemies are on a deck type area, I see tanks kill most party members at this one particular spot by trying to pull more than the party can handle. These dungeons will always contain a mix of new and experienced players, and I think players need to understand that new players should play at the speed they are comfortable at. Once you get to higher level dungeons this argument really won't matter because people fly through those dungeons and they aren't going to debate with you about the speed, they are just going to go. Just my two cents...

While I can't argue for everyone who is in favor of big pulls in this thread, I personally have said multiple times that small pulls are fine in under level 50 dungeons, and doing dungeons for the first time. I don't think many people here are expecting wall-to-wall pulls in new content, or content where everyone lacks good AOE control.

That being said, most people in this thread are talking about the OPs case, which was a level 70 post-stormblood dungeon that has a iLvl requirement of 340.

By the same logic, DPS aren't needed in dungeons either. After all, tanks and healers can get by just fine without.

Correct. That's why the meta for Rath EX is 3 tanks, 1 SCH

[Veis_Alveare]

Anyway, I'm just semi trolling.

That much is very clear.

[WaterShield]

Healers are worthless, that's why we're getting a tank, while you have one useless healer (WHM), and no new one.

Smdh "Tanks aren't necessary". If you're a casual running dungeons all day, perhaps so, but that's the bare minimum of content in this game. I can't tell you how many times on WAR or PLD that I've literally solo'd the fight because the healer ate it and did just fine. If DRK makes use of Soul Eater in grit with TBN for autos, perhaps it too can do this.

By the same logic, DPS aren't needed in dungeons either. After all, tanks and healers can get by just fine without.

And no, I don't need a healer as DRK. DA Abyssal, TBN, Quietus keep my near immortal, PLD as well.

Anyway, I'm just semi trolling. Just thought it was amusing that so many think so little of tanks.

It's more along the lines of... no one is important because you can do everything missing one of the roles? So.... no one role deserves special consideration?

[Darty123]

Server: Excalibur ( primal )

Willing to transfer: No

Personal Interests: FF 14 , running, hiking, game of thrones, smash bros, reading books, relaxing the days away, cooking.

Age: 27

Play schedule: I play as often as time allows, at least 2-3 hours a day when working
and on weekends can be more than 6 +hrs I am a member of the US military so my schedule is not so predictable.

What kind of gamer are you: midcore ? I play for fun but strive for greatness

Character Gender: Male

Do you care if the player in real life is not the same gender as their character?: yes

Character Race: miquote

Preferred Race: Any except lalafel but must be male irl and game

Main class?: pld, healers, mch but I have all jobs and crafts to 70

Dislikes: Fakes and flakes , immature people

Goals for the game: I achieved most of them

Goals for the marriage union: do content together, create a lasting friendship enjoy the game, be truly in game couple and if it leads to irl then that's even better.

Etc: willing to pay for the upgraded version if I feel we click well

[van_arn]

Server: Excalibur ( primal )

Willing to transfer: No

Personal Interests: FF 14 , running, hiking, game of thrones, smash bros, reading books, relaxing the days away, cooking.

Age: 27

Play schedule: I play as often as time allows, at least 2-3 hours a day when working
and on weekends can be more than 6 +hrs I am a member of the US military so my schedule is not so predictable.

What kind of gamer are you: midcore ? I play for fun but strive for greatness

Character Gender: Male

Do you care if the player in real life is not the same gender as their character?: yes

Character Race: miquote

Preferred Race: Any except lalafel but must be male irl and game

Main class?: pld, healers, mch but I have all jobs and crafts to 70

Dislikes: Fakes and flakes , immature people

Goals for the game: I achieved most of them

Goals for the marriage union: do content together, create a lasting friendship enjoy the game, be truly in game couple and if it leads to irl then that's even better.

Etc: willing to pay for the upgraded version if I feel we click well

I'm still deciding on if this is galaxy brain meta commentary or not

[kidalutz]

Server: Excalibur ( primal )

Willing to transfer: No

Personal Interests: FF 14 , running, hiking, game of thrones, smash bros, reading books, relaxing the days away, cooking.

Age: 27

Play schedule: I play as often as time allows, at least 2-3 hours a day when working
and on weekends can be more than 6 +hrs I am a member of the US military so my schedule is not so predictable.

What kind of gamer are you: midcore ? I play for fun but strive for greatness

Character Gender: Male

Do you care if the player in real life is not the same gender as their character?: yes

Character Race: miquote

Preferred Race: Any except lalafel but must be male irl and game

Main class?: pld, healers, mch but I have all jobs and crafts to 70

Dislikes: Fakes and flakes , immature people

Goals for the game: I achieved most of them

Goals for the marriage union: do content together, create a lasting friendship enjoy the game, be truly in game couple and if it leads to irl then that's even better.

Etc: willing to pay for the upgraded version if I feel we click well

*points to Marriage partner thread*