Dollmaster - 4th healer suggestion

[Duskane]

there is a feminine side to the healers
but other than that every other job is pretty neutral bit of a stretch other wise
id like a healer that has some angst to it though just for something different from other healers like mad scientist or a plague doctor kinda deal.

[Veis_Alveare]

in all games jobs follow a orgin based on whatever but i use D&D one of the first rp based games

Okay so general mythos - well then pretty much everyone would be male.

In terms of the start of Fantasy as a genre you've got Tolkien and let's just say it doesn't seem like he liked girls much. Archers? Elves, and at least a seemingly egalitarian society in a lot of ways... but the famous one in terms of combat, especially archery, is Legolas - a man.

Swordplay/close range combat in general? I can't think of a single woman that participates, honestly, even with a dagger. I guess you could count the hobbit's shortswords as daggers but they're all guys too.

Magic? You've got Gandalf and the other wizards, Sauron, more elves... with the exception of Galadriel who I don't believe engages in combat in the books the only people who work magic at all are men.

The point of this ted talk about books I haven't read in like 15 years is that this concept of gendering jobs based on some kind of origin myth is stupid and outdated, stop furthering it. It didn't matter then and it certainly doesn't matter now.

In the immortal words of one Michael Jordan, "Stop it, get some help."

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Okay so general mythos - well then pretty much everyone would be male.

In terms of the start of Fantasy as a genre you've got Tolkien and let's just say it doesn't seem like he liked girls much. Archers? Elves, and at least a seemingly egalitarian society in a lot of ways... but the famous one in terms of combat, especially archery, is Legolas - a man.

Swordplay/close range combat in general? I can't think of a single woman that participates, honestly, even with a dagger. I guess you could count the hobbit's shortswords as daggers but they're all guys too.

Magic? You've got Gandalf and the other wizards, Sauron, more elves... with the exception of Galadriel who I don't believe engages in combat in the books the only people who work magic at all are men.

The point of this ted talk about books I haven't read in like 15 years is that this concept of gendering jobs based on some kind of origin myth is stupid and outdated, stop furthering it. It didn't matter then and it certainly doesn't matter now.

In the immortal words of one Michael Jordan, "Stop it, get some help."

research greek mythology lol more exact Hekates followers

and even more modern ones strongest witch was morgana

also the greek god of war was a goddess mostly using bows.

greek witch circe again Femine strongest mage.


i guess for dancer u could use Xena maybe also very very few males used anything outside swords and axes in anything

[Veis_Alveare]

Does anyone ever realize they're basically talking to a wall?

I'm gonna go have a good cold drink, this is just too stupid for me to deal with.

Good luck with your class, OP. Sorry to derail your thread for... that.

[Seraphor]

Healers don’t have to be feminine.
Minwu from FF2
Any other White Mage before FF14 gave them flower power.
Ignis in FF15 is the de facto healer of the party and he’s not feminine.

They managed to make Dancer gender neutral so why not a healer?
I’d be happy if they just removed lilies from WHM and changed its animations to something other than ballerina twirls, and same for AST, and give Fairy glamours to SCH to replace them with moogles.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Healers don’t have to be feminine.
Minwu from FF2
Any other White Mage before FF14 gave them flower power.
Ignis in FF15 is the de facto healer of the party and he’s not feminine.

They managed to make Dancer gender neutral so why not a healer?
I’d be happy if they just removed lilies from WHM and changed its animations to something other than ballerina twirls, and same for AST, and give Fairy glamours to SCH to replace them with moogles.

ur joking right 15 was completely boy love type of game like yuri on ice anime all guys in a car just screams Bl

[Seraphor]

ur joking right 15 was completely boy love type of game like yuri on ice anime all guys in a car just screams Bl

I mean, even if this was true, which it's not, a gay relationship is by definition twice as masculine as a straight one. XD

[Eloah]

What the hell is wrong with everyone. Have people forgotten that masculine and feminine aren't the same thing as male and female. Reading through these post I can't tell if people are advocating for the terms proper usage or using them as a synonym for male and female.

Look all of the jobs are gender neutral, but some can lean more towards masculinity or femininity depending on your interpritation. Take the tanks for example. WAR and DRK are quite masculine, but PLD could be considered feminine since they are viewed as regal and dignified, and fight with grace and elegance. For the healers WHM and AST might be feminine but SCH could be seen as masculine since they are a tactical military job and rely on structure and precision. For the melee NIN, MNK, and DRG mostly masculine, but SAM could be viewed as feminine, mostly for the same reason as PLD. Then of the casters SMN is probably the most masculine job, but RDM is similar to PLD and SAM with its elegance, and BLM and BLU are both very theatrical.

As for the ranged. MCH is quite masculine, but there is something funny about BRD and DNC. Throughout the series, and especially in games with gender exclusivity, BRD is usually a male only job and DNC female only. But here's the thing, BRD is a feminine job and DNC is a masculine job. BRDs are meant to instill encouragement and soothe their allies, creating a calming peaceful environment; tranquility is a feminine trait. DNCs on the other hand are supposed to mesmerize and instill a sense of passion in people. Passion is a form of aggression, and whether it's bad or good, it creates a sense of power and energy; energy is a masculine trait.

So please don't categorize, and use the right labels. But truthfully none of that matters because its how you see it. It's not the outfit, or the weapon, or the skills, it's the concept and the overall lore of the job that makes it masculine or feminine.

And no DRG is not feminine because they use a pole and "pole dance", that's just stupid. Last I checked Chip 'n' Dale's was a thing.

[Jandor]

What the hell is wrong with everyone. <snip>

Morbol did a pretty impressive job of trolling them .

[Seraphor]

For the healers WHM and AST might be feminine but SCH could be seen as masculine since they are a tactical military job and rely on structure and precision.

Like I said.
Remove the ballerina twirls from WHM and AST animations.
Give us "Egi Glamours" for Fairies.
Sorted.