Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
That is the groups prerogative, if the groups feels it will be a net gain to wait for a replacement then dealing with the outlier that is on their choice. I get where you are coming from, but as players we do not have to blindly accept the RNG outcomes that the DF throws at us, we have choices. Now one can argue that the function was not intended to be used in such a way, or that community methods or desires do not align with the intent or goals of the developers. If that is true the developers should either do something to enforce their desired intent for the content, clarify and enforce a rules or do nothing and maintain the status quo.

Though I will say as I mentioned and many have echoed in this thread the only many of us want is for someone to try, if the group is offering support the outlier player loses nothing by trying. That is what confuses me you say we should try to be accepting of their preferred method of running a dungeon but not the other way around?
It all boils down to "Get out of my party because I want to clear this 2 minutes faster with someone else".
Except you're still using the DF to acquire that party member.

You're basically saying that you're happy to waste the time of the first tank by kicking them out in order to not 'waste' your time with small trash packs.
Then if you get a second Tank who also pulls small, then you'll just deal with it? Why not just deal with it the first time?

Small pulls are not an impediment to clearing the dungeon. Kicking someone to 'save' yourself a minute off the run is disgusting behaviour.

And for the record, I fall into the camp of Tank setting the pace of the run, as they're the ones who have to work harder for a mass pull compared to smaller pulls.
DPS spam AoE on big and small pulls, Nothing changes for them.
Healers Heal and throw damage if they want regardless of how many mobs are beating the Tanks face in.
Meanwhile, if Tank misses a cooldown, it could very well be a party wipe.


So yeah, Tank should have final say in speedrun or not. The burden of responsibility is higher on that Role than the others.