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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Honestly if they want to keep it a random system, at least make this a lottery. We all pay the plot price up front, get thrown into a pile, and can get on with our lives while praying RNGesus favors us. If it does, hurray - we got a house without wasting our lives and playtime clicking a placard like mindless drones! If it doesn't, we get our money refunded and just try again at the next one.

    I hate the randomness of this, but at least make it so we aren't wasting actual playtime trying for a chance at a house because SE refuses to make a better system. I'd be a lot happier with a lotto than this hidden timer BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Honestly if they want to keep it a random system, at least make this a lottery. We all pay the plot price up front, get thrown into a pile, and can get on with our lives while praying RNGesus favors us. If it does, hurray - we got a house without wasting our lives and playtime clicking a placard like mindless drones! If it doesn't, we get our money refunded and just try again at the next one.

    I hate the randomness of this, but at least make it so we aren't wasting actual playtime trying for a chance at a house because SE refuses to make a better system. I'd be a lot happier with a lotto than this hidden timer BS.
    So basically you want to throw one random based system out for another random based system? How about no. What we have now isn't ideal but a lottery system would be worse.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    So basically you want to throw one random based system out for another random based system? How about no. What we have now isn't ideal but a lottery system would be worse.
    I personally feel it would be better than what we have now because it wouldnt ivolve us camping a plot all day. you place your name in and go actually play the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    So basically you want to throw one random based system out for another random based system? How about no. What we have now isn't ideal but a lottery system would be worse.
    How would it be worse? We at least would have time to eat, sleep, play the actual game, go to work - without worrying we'll miss out on a plot. Randomness sucks, but if they're fully intent on keeping it random for the sake of avoiding house flippers - at least make a random system that doesn't require people to possibly choose between their health and lives for the sake of a house.

    Ideally I'd like them to create a better solution than this, don't get me wrong. Ideally, I'd like instanced housing - neighborhoods are not all that great and you barely see people around to begin with, we're all inside our houses. Ideally, I'd also like those apartment upgrades they threw around one time as thinking about. I'd prefer to have anything besides this mess we're in right now.

    But the likelihood of that vs. them keeping it a random chance is low. So at least make the random chance less harmful to people's health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    So basically you want to throw one random based system out for another random based system? How about no. What we have now isn't ideal but a lottery system would be worse.
    How is a lottery worse than not being able to play a game because if you want a house you better be clicking the sign to buy it for 11 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yllania View Post
    How is a lottery worse than not being able to play a game because if you want a house you better be clicking the sign to buy it for 11 hours
    Yeah and that's just for a chance of maybe getting it b/c there are at least 2-3 other people doing the same thing on that house. The system is incredibly ridiculous and needs a revision. They are basically saying anyone with a shit to do IRL and who doesn't want to make this game their life you to basically give up any hope of getting a house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    Having done this last night, I totally agree with the RNG timer being a PITA.

    I was running around the Goblet for about 2-3 hours while doing some duties in between. I was literally running around from plot to plot hoping I'd find one that was allowed me to purchase it but kept getting the dreaded "This plots isn't available for purchase" message over and over again. I ran into another player, who I guess had noticed me running around looking for plots who told me that he'd been waiting for a particular plot for around 6 hours. (as if to shoo me away)

    I ended up leaving my character AFK and went to watch TV for about another hour or so. I switched over to the game, clicked on the sign and ended up getting a house in a pretty cool loacation. :-D As satisfying as it was, it was still annoying AF! This was around 9-10pm CDT on Goblin.

    I get why SE implemented this...but I feel like there needs to be another safeguard for this opposed to some invisible timer.
    You got really lucky being on a low pop server. On excaliber at any given time there are at least 2-3 people sometimes going up to 10 plus on an open plot. Sometimes you get lucky at very odd hours with nobody at a plot, but even when that happens it isn't long until ppl start showing up.
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    Last edited by supergiz; 04-25-2019 at 09:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Honestly if they want to keep it a random system, at least make this a lottery. We all pay the plot price up front, get thrown into a pile, and can get on with our lives while praying RNGesus favors us. If it does, hurray - we got a house without wasting our lives and playtime clicking a placard like mindless drones! If it doesn't, we get our money refunded and just try again at the next one.

    I hate the randomness of this, but at least make it so we aren't wasting actual playtime trying for a chance at a house because SE refuses to make a better system. I'd be a lot happier with a lotto than this hidden timer BS.
    I think this is a good patch even if it introduces a different type of stress (will you win or not...), since the stress of waiting at the board and losing to a sudden relocation seems to be quite a bit higher (investing hours staring at a placard sounds...... lovely.. lol). Core issue will continue to be housing system itself though, so we've just traded one type of stress for another. I do think a system that helps prevent reselling is helpful though so I don't want to see the placard thing go away at least until the housing system itself is at a point this doesn't need to be (so the lottery style might be a better replacement of the waiting timer placard).

    Of course relocation needs to be on the lottery as well otherwise people enter and then later it's like "haha jk, nvm you didn't actually enter" lol.

    To be clear this replaces the waiting timer, so if the lot has been open long enough its just an open lot.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 05-09-2019 at 07:30 AM.