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  1. #71
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    What rewards? (I've never run a roulette because there's no way to prepare for whatever dungeon comes up).. There's no gear to be had for a level 70 in the early dungeons, unless it's just for glamour items..
    You get bonus EXP and tomestones from MSQ roulette, including Genesis if you're at endgame.

    Roulettes are a good way to level up in general - all reward you with varying amounts of bonuses (EXP, tomes, GC seals, materia, gil) and the rewards scale with your level.

    There isn't anything you really need to do to prepare for them - just use your preferred class and current gear, and your stats will automatically adjust to the dungeon. You won't get anything above your current level.

    You mentioned your character is already at Lv70, but there is a specific Lv70 roulette (for endgame dungeons that reward Mendacity and Genesis tomes) and also 'Experts', which isn't as daunting as it sounds - it's just the most recently released dungeons, currently the Burn, Arboretum and Ghimlyt Dark.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 04-24-2019 at 08:59 PM.

  2. #72
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    What rewards? (I've never run a roulette because there's no way to prepare for whatever dungeon comes up).. There's no gear to be had for a level 70 in the early dungeons, unless it's just for glamour items..
    What....?
    You've been missing out on tons of EXP and tome rewards. How have you even managed to reach level 70?

    There's no preparation needed for any content in this game, except endgame raiding, which is not on a roulette.

    Seriously, outside of initial story progression and endgame raids, roulettes are the main content that anyone ever does in this game.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 04-24-2019 at 09:10 PM.

  3. #73
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Seraph
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I can tell you every single time I do MSQ roulette, which is daily for the Genesis tomes, there is a new player. Tons of people are catching up or just starting prior to ShB. So it's unfair for these people to be rushed through it. Now, it would be nice if the game had a way to flag who had not completed the dungeon before and could queue them together, but not sure that is really feasible.

    I do think for the TIME it takes, the MSQ Roulette should up the Genesis tomes to 100 from 50. However, I will say the fact you can get around 4 million XP per run makes it worth it if you are trying to level quickly.
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  4. #74
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Y... get put into some sort of "freeze" that prevents you to continue with the dungeon until everyone has finished their cutscene, like bossrooms being locked ...
    Nice suggest, Vidu.
    Any sort of "door" that opens only after everyone finishes its cutscene (as it now happens at duty startup), will cut the shortcutters (ah, the pun!).
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  5. #75
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taramin View Post
    Wow. The attitudes of the mentors in this thread. You ARE misusing Mentor and the roulette, especially since it forces your crown on. You're expected to help in ANY duty it gives you, even if that help is just to occupy a slot, and finish it. Stow the selfish entitled attitude, or stop using the Mentor Roulette, as you've missed the point entirely. You're not good mentors, you're not even good people.
    When the penalty for running the dungeon is greater than the penalty for bailing on the dungeon, leave your moralizing at the door.
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  6. #76
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    When the penalty for running the dungeon is greater than the penalty for bailing on the dungeon, leave your moralizing at the door.
    What if they changed mentor roulette though to make it so if you were removed from the duty for any reason or left (even if you're the only player left), you received a 6 hour debuff stopping you from accessing any duty... that would be triple the penalty for even the longest duties. And I include being removed from the duty for any reason because otherwise you'd simply demand to be kicked.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  7. #77
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    I don't know if it's possible to program the game this way. But I think it would be a good compromise to allow the cutscenes to be skipped if there are no new players in the group when you get in. If there are then the cutscenes will be unskipable for anyone as normal.
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  8. #78
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I don't know if it's possible to program the game this way. But I think it would be a good compromise to allow the cutscenes to be skipped if there are no new players in the group when you get in. If there are then the cutscenes will be unskipable for anyone as normal.
    I feel like if it was possible, they would have done it. But it doing so would require extra “thought processes” that the duty finder was never designed to go through, and they may not be able to add it in later.

    I’ve mentioned before - the change to make the cutscenes unskippable during the dungeon also affected playback at the inn. That suggests that it’s a change to the cutscene itself, and the unskippable auto-progression is probably hard-coded into the cutscene rather than dynamic.
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  9. #79
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    Ku Rando
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    Alpha
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
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    If there are no cutscenes then that should mean the reward for playing the roulette will be greatly reduced to reflect the time expected to complete it, resulting in less players actually volunteering to do it (e.g. leaving on entry). You could also end up seeing PFs for the MSQ roulette -quick runs for big rewards, NO first timers-, suddenly the new players have longer queues as so many players would opt for PF as opposed to DF. The best compromise is to decide if it's worth a player's time to run the roulette to begin with, seeing as it's optional for all but those doing the actual MSQ.
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  10. #80
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    When the penalty for running the dungeon is greater than the penalty for bailing on the dungeon, leave your moralizing at the door.
    This guy... I swear they only exist to snark.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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