Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[FeliAiko]

There's a difference between being critical of how badly SE handled the races reveal (which I don't argue against) vs. the hyperbolic, overemotional reactions I've seen from players over it (which in turn gives people no real reason to take you seriously). People need to learn how to do the former, instead of catching feelings when others tell them (rightfully) to get some perspective and not act like it's the end of the world.

[SoloWingMetatron]

There's a difference between being critical of how badly SE handled the races reveal (which I don't argue against) vs. the hyperbolic, overemotional reactions I've seen from players over it (which in turn gives people no real reason to take you seriously). People need to learn how to do the former, instead of catching feelings when others tell them (rightfully) to get some perspective and not act like it's the end of the world.

The majority of the replies to this thread have simply been requests and constructive feedback though... only a small number have been hyperbolic..However the ones responding with insult and vitriol are often the ones opposing the inclusion of male Viera....with people citing "entitlement" as if they know whats good...

[reivaxe]

Yet people are treating it as if it is. Honestly reading through this, I got a good laugh. It's just gamer entitlement. The comments that made me laugh the most were the "I'll pay my sub again if" or "Unsubbing until added". Like SE actually care.

Nice signature btw. Huge Persona fan myself

I read this thread sometimes for the same reason.

People wrapping themselves up in entitlement, cuddling together and lashing out.

And yes people, there's a big fat difference between entitlement and desire/ hopes/ wants. You can want Male Viera, you can hope for them and ask for them and speculate about them. But it turns into entitlement when you act like you're owed this. When you act like the devs need to take out the time 1 month after a huge press event to comment even more about this after looking at YOUR thoughts just cause YOU care about it (even though they're in the middle of a great expansion and fans haven't even seen the extent of what they're doing). When people felt they could call the devs Homophobic or sexiest for this as if it was a personal attack on them. When people see fit to come here and call the devs "Gutless/ cowardly" for not responding yet and not get booed tf out by the self proclaimed "decent" ones here. When people bad mouth Hrothgar and call the devs "shady" for adding them and not exactly what THEY wanted ... that's entitlement.

They don't have to give you everything you want. Paying a sub doesn't mean they have to grant your ever wish or reply to fan's every concern. They're not taking something away from you so you're not owed anything cc wise.

Citation required.
Also, just because it's not >50% doesn't mean it's just a hundred of angry players throwing a fit. Let's say... 30% isn't a majority but it's certainly a noticeable chunk of the playerbase.

I find this funny, the only measurement we have for Male Viera interest is the likes on the OP here. OP after 1 month only has 1.6K likes and like 1.4k were in the first 1 or 2 weeks. That's dwarfed by the number of views on YT for the reveal and even if you don't count that then you can look at how SE released a simple CC head shot of a Viera on Insta and got over 10K hearts in a day. Reddit? Threads about Male viera get down voted to hell because people there who don't care are done putting up with the whining. JPN side of this Forum? Last I cheacked their thread about BOTH races being monogendered was at 25 pages and went days without a new post.

There's really nothing that shows me that there's a noticeable amount of people out raged over this or even decently offended.

[LyraKuroneko]

JPN side of this Forum? Last I cheacked their thread about BOTH races being monogendered was at 25 pages and went days without a new post.

You can't begin to compare this side and their side of the forum.

The mentality is completly different and more healthy (for that part) if I may say.

[MrKimper]

People upset about WARs gauge being halved when they switched stances must have been a vocal minority.

People upset about Wanderer's minuet and gauss barrel turning MCH and BRD into casters must have been a vocal minority.

People upset with diadem must have been a vocal minority.

People upset with twintania's mechanic must have been a vocal minority.

People upset about Gordias must have been a vocal minority.

People upset about the audio quality of perform must have been a vocal minority.

People upset about egi glamours must have been a vocal minority.



I sure am glad them being a vocal minority completely invalidated their discontent and that square ignored them and did nothing about it, I'm glad Sqaure has a track record of not listening to it's fan base no matter how niche some things might be asked for. I'm glad vocal minority is an argument you can attach to anything to try and delegitimize it xd because we all know only the majority matter and are always vocal.

[Senn]

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You've also been lashing out at people.
Let's try to be less aggressive, everyone. Keep it civil.

Anyway, anyone want to give me a tl;dr version of the posts these past few pages? Don't give me a giant paragraph though lol

[MrKimper]

You've also been lashing out at people.
Let's try to be less aggressive, everyone. Keep it civil.

Anyway, anyone want to give me a tl;dr version of the posts these past few pages? Don't give me a giant paragraph though lol

"Male viera posters are a whiney entitled overly emotional vocal minority that square should not listen to" just about covers it.

[SoloWingMetatron]

I read this thread sometimes for the same reason.

People wrapping themselves up in entitlement, cuddling together and lashing out.

And yes people, there's a big fat difference between entitlement and desire/ hopes/ wants. You can want Male Viera, you can hope for them and ask for them and speculate about them. But it turns into entitlement when you act like you're owed this. When you act like the devs need to take out the time 1 month after a huge press event to comment even more about this after looking at YOUR thoughts just cause YOU care about it (even though they're in the middle of a great expansion and fans haven't even seen the extent of what they're doing). When people felt they could call the devs Homophobic or sexiest for this as if it was a personal attack on them. When people see fit to come here and call the devs "Gutless/ cowardly" for not responding yet and not get booed tf out by the self proclaimed "decent" ones here. When people bad mouth Hrothgar and call the devs "shady" for adding them and not exactly what THEY wanted ... that's entitlement.

They don't have to give you everything you want. Paying a sub doesn't mean they have to grant your ever wish or reply to fan's every concern. They're not taking something away from you so you're not owed anything cc wise.

I find this funny, the only measurement we have for Male Viera interest is the likes on the OP here. OP after 1 month only has 1.6K likes and like 1.4k were in the first 1 or 2 weeks. That's dwarfed by the number of views on YT for the reveal and even if you don't count that then you can look at how SE released a simple CC head shot of a Viera on Insta and got over 10K hearts in a day. Reddit? Threads about Male viera get down voted to hell because people there who don't care are done putting up with the whining. JPN side of this Forum? Last I cheacked their thread about BOTH races being monogendered was at 25 pages and went days without a new post.

There's really nothing that shows me that there's a noticeable amount of people out raged over this or even decently offended.

This suggests that you're just cherry picking the responses you read on here.....there have been a multitude of responses which are not even remotely entitled and offer up very valid points.

Why not engage with those responses and have an actual constructive dialogue....instead of focusing solely on the so called "entitled" posts...

This suggests your only intention is to stir the pot and create discourse...because so far all I'm seeing are belittling words....which ironically is entitled....

[MrKimper]

Why not engage with those responses and have an actual constructive dialogue....instead of focusing solely on the so called "entitled" posts...

Because then he couldn't strawman to look like an intellectual "owning" male viera posters.

[grinkdaboy]

kimper the 13th amendment made it illegal to own people like that