Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Yana-Chan]

Never said it was, it doesn’t make it right to put people down though, especially bullying.

[zeylos]

Alright I'm actually getting reeally annoyed at SE by this point with them saying nothing and trying to ignore us. I really hope they consider giving us a response as soon as possible to calm people down with this topic. Also it's quite possible to get harassed if you say you want male Viera and on my FC if I ever say it they tell me to either change context or leave so It makes me feel really bad and I'm honestly considering on leaving the FC, if not the game itself, and instead playing ESO where there aren't any gender locked races. At least WOW is getting a new patch that seems extremely promising and hopefully it can fix BFA so I can get back on it before next expansion.

[BillyKaplan]

It's just gamer entitlement.

This phrase always makes me laugh. As though I'm not entitled to ask for something in a game I pay money to 1. purchase 2. purchase expansions for 3. play, as it's subscription based. Or take my money elsewhere if I'm dissatisfied with the product.

Like SE actually care.

I mean, they're a company.

[zeylos]

Yet people are treating it as if it is. Honestly reading through this, I got a good laugh. It's just gamer entitlement. The comments that made me laugh the most were the "I'll pay my sub again if" or "Unsubbing until added". Like SE actually care.

Nice signature btw. Huge Persona fan myself

And yet ANOTHER person comes to insult everyone that wants male Viera and asks for it... Seriously u ppl should really find something to spend ur time on. If u got what u want then leave everyone else to ask for what they want and if u don't want it then ignore them

[Madiera]

No it's not the end of the world. But that being said, if the consumers they're trying to sell it to, feel betrayed, belittled or even just ignored, that will affect people's desire to purchase anything else from them. Playing coy, mishandling information to the point of being questionable and then trying to 'smooth over' things with their own built in and I hate to think of it as an excuse, but what else would you call something (lore in this case) that they can change any time they want and pretend that it's ALWAYS been that way? It's flimsy. Then to add to it all you have instances of unnecessary drama that is caused by people who are either trolling or just straight up being borderline zealots to SE/Yoshi and/or his team and try and instill this "us vs them" mentality that is sadly becoming too widespread in a lot of NA forums.

Other than that though, I'm still a firm believer in that as long as you're letting your voices be heard in a constructive and respectful manner, they will/should respond and it is my hope that they will eventually add the missing genders into the game...and that they fix that headgear issue too (oof). Because if they don't and just ignore people or even make it seem like they're looking down on them, I am personally reminded of that "No, you think you want that, but you don't" mentality that Blizzard openly displayed WAY back when, in where the Devs do whatever they/the parent company wants, consumer opinions/desires be damned. I'm not saying EVERYONE'S opinions need to be seriously looked at, but when there is THIS much of an outcry, it should be addressed...and maybe investigated since it seems that there IS a market for that idea (which equates to big ol' bucks).

On the note of this rather crudely thrown around word 'Entitlement'. SE is trying to sell you something, you, as a consumer have the right to refuse it and even go on record to state WHY you're not going to purchase it, or at the very least explain why something is affecting your desire to purchase it. That being said, I would rather be entitled if it means I can love something yet still be critical of it. Rather than some 'drone' who sucks up everything and anything that a company pushes out without thinking about it nor pointing out anything that could be improved upon (but not TOO loudly, otherwise you might hurt SE's feelings :P ).

[zeylos]

You can take your money elsewhere if you want. You not giving SE $13-15 dollars a month isn't going to make a difference in the long scheme of things. You're not entitled to ask for something in a game simply because you pay money. I played World of Warcraft for 14 years and the same crap happened there. SE and this game will be around long after you've gone.

I'm not trying to be rude in saying this, but it's true. Companies shouldn't have to acquiesce to a small minority simply because they're unhappy. ENTITLEMENT

Love it how you assume that the ppl who want male Viera is a small minority, but please I ask you to take a look throughfiruns or social media and tell me how many ppl see that want them vs those that don't want them. Also you don't realise that if they loose 5% of their players SE will reduce their budget even further down and this would've been avoided all together by releasing what the actual majority wanted and giving ppl either Viera or hrotgar race as a full race. SE is a company and the only thing they care about in the end is money

[zeylos]

Love it how you assume that the ppl who want male Viera is a small minority, but please I ask you to take a look throughfiruns or social media and tell me how many ppl see that want them vs those that don't want them. Also you don't realise that if they loose 5% of their players SE will reduce their budget even further down and this would've been avoided all together by releasing what the actual majority wanted and giving ppl either Viera or hrotgar race as a full race. SE is a company and the only thing they care about in the end is money

Sorry btw I'm on my phone and I did some bad spelling and I can't edit.
Imeant through forums

[BillyKaplan]

You not giving SE $13-15 dollars a month isn't going to make a difference in the long scheme of things.

No, but there isn't only one of me. There never is. I'm not making claims about numbers or majority, but it's hardly going to be just me.

You're not entitled to ask for something in a game simply because you pay money.

Uh, that's kind of by definition though. Granted the company is not obligated to respond positively, and I should decide what I do with my time and money in response to it. But the act of asking for something as a paying customer? Yeah...

I played World of Warcraft for 14 years and the same crap happened there.

And you'll notice there seems to be an exodus of players away from that game, or so I hear. Something about WoW refugees or what not.

I'm not trying to be rude

(X) Doubt

small minority

Citation required.
Also, just because it's not >50% doesn't mean it's just a hundred of angry players throwing a fit. Let's say... 30% isn't a majority but it's certainly a noticeable chunk of the playerbase.

ENTITLEMENT

You keep throwing that word around and I'm not even going to say it's not entitlement - as a paying customer I have a right to state my opinion and take actions as a result of the company's actions.
Flaunt it all you want, it's not a bad word in this context.

[Gwenorai]

You can take your money elsewhere if you want. You not giving SE $13-15 dollars a month isn't going to make a difference in the long scheme of things. You're not entitled to ask for something in a game simply because you pay money. I played World of Warcraft for 14 years and the same crap happened there. SE and this game will be around long after you've gone.

I'm not trying to be rude in saying this, but it's true. Companies shouldn't have to acquiesce to a small minority simply because they're unhappy. ENTITLEMENT

What are you talking about? This is the equivalent of telling every customer that they shouldn't give feedback on cosmetic items that they would desire to have in the future. And instead, we should simply let Square Enix do what they desire without feedback or headway on what their customers would like to see.

Just imagine a shop owner simply stocking up basketballs when there's a good amount of people wanting footballs - but when those people ask for footballs to be stocked there's some other customer in the store who's stroking their basketball telling those who want the footballs that they're entitled.

[Theodric]

What are you talking about? This is the equivalent of telling every customer that they shouldn't give feedback on cosmetics item that they would desire to have in the future. And instead, we should simply let square Enix do what they desire without feedback or headway on what their customers would like to see.

Just imagine a shop owner simply stocking up basketballs when there's a good amount of people wanting footballs - but when those people ask for footballs to be stocked there's some other customer in the store who's stroking their basketball telling those who want the footballs that they're entitled.

Can I be the guy stroking my tennis balls in the corner?