Devs: Has Merrits Been Talked about?

[Jinko]

I think distributable stats is enough.

I would rather the dev team stayed away from that elitist bull**** if they can, stats and gear choice should be enough.

[Coglin]

im not comparing fps to mmo *****, im comparing the change from game to game in any franchise. What is liked is always carried over. Everytime 14 mentions something similar to 11, people cry like little babies.

Actually, you were. You were using a FPS franchise game to game change carry over to justify one in a MMORPG.

Secondly, before you start calling names, perhaps you should get a clue. I never made a issue about anything to do with it having been in XI, not one word about was mentioned by me. All I said was that you were full of it when you claimed it was in most MMOs. You spoke out of ignorance about other MMOs and got called on it.

I asked you a very specific question about your idea, with specifics, for a merit system. Which you chose not to answer, only to apply name calling and claim. falsly I might add, that it was justified to name call over peoples issues with ideas from XI being applied to XIV. If you actually cared to be constructive about it, you would have just answered the question. Instead you took the option of further lowering any credibility you had left, to fly off the handle at me over something I never even came close to saying in my post.

All that being said. I ask you, what type of "merit" system do you want in XIV?

[Jennestia]

I do recall only FFXI having a certain type of Merit system (probably the one being requested/suggested), but other MMOs do have merit systems in some way, once you reach cap they allow you to rebirth, which is essentially a merit system because sometimes rebirthing carries over your previous work. (However, rebirth systems are generally popular with Private Servers, official servers just let you "respec" in a way once you hit the class cap as people will generally focus on PvP at that point.)

[Blarp]

And yet the newely released MMOs (2009-2011) still utilize this, because there's nothing wrong with it.

Hey, I have an idea! Let's try something new instead of doing what every other MMO does.

[Jennestia]

Hey, I have an idea! Let's try something new instead of doing what every other MMO does.

Then complain about it to the ends of time till the developers turns it into a "standard" MMORPG?! That is a good idea!

[TheVedis]

Then complain about it to the ends of time till the developers turns it into a "standard" MMORPG?! That is a good idea!

we have 2 choices

1) do what other mmos do and complain about it
2) do something new and complain about it


wait, those are different choices right?

[Antanias]

Also for all the people saying "wait for cap" ff11 had mertis at 75... cap is 99. Did we all forget that? Sure lvl 50 is prolly too early but in another 30 or so lvls merits couuld be VERY cool

Iirc, ff11 was initially intended to stay at the 75-cap. Yes the cap is 99 now, but most of the content there can be bulldozed @ 80+.

[Griss]

I can name 2 games that have "Merit" like systems
XI and Rift
But yea way too soon for merits.

Depending on how you view it, The wow style talent tree could also fit the bill.

The xi merit system was kind of a head shaker if you sit back and think about it. They were so dead set on not allowing the cap to go above 75 for a long long time. Yet they turned around and put in and occasionally expanded a system that allowed players to tweak the underlying math magic and approximate the mechanical benefits of going above said cap.

Me no understand.

[Andrien]

Point Allotment, is that not good enough? or even Materia?

There is still plenty of room for improvement on those things above. I don't think there is room for merit points yet. Not at 50, perhaps at 99.

[viion]

I believe it should be based on Materia, more flexible, more risky, more costly, more achieving, more epeen.

Merit was good, but I think Materia system covers this.