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  1. #31
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    I have to say this.. I REALLY hate how small the head is and how long the neck is. T.T Why can't the heads be a bit bigger?
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  2. #32
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    It's nothing really technical. Our ears do move in some emotes, just our list is smaller, and with less expression as the males.
    It's the curse of having a three year difference in character release dates and character artist workloads.
    1.0 had character artists animating 8 player models whereas 2.0 had them focusing on just 3, so there was probably more room to focus on the male miqo'te, female roe, and female highlanders than there was for the original 1.0 characters. On top of that they had more time and practice with the tools when creating the male miqo'te than they did with the females so their familiarity would allow them to push the anatomy of the race farther to be able to express more. It's just kind of how these things go, it's why the Au Ra have such fluid and expressive emotes compared to a lot of the more stiff or simple 1.0 races.
    We can only hope that SE steps out of the habit of "NEVER TOUCH PAST ONLY MAKE NEW GOODER" and goes back to show the previous character models a little bit m ore polish. :T
    It would be nice to get an update to our character models. Perhaps some new physics for hair, gear (if people remember the awesome bag jiggle or run animations in 1.0 lol), and ears. Or like the Hrothgar some people wanted a more Byakko body shape, I feel if you added two sliders in the right spot you'd have that body shape. Might be possible now, since we haven't had a chance to play with the editor, but I feel like it is unlikely they have those sliders yet. Maybe depending on how they went about making the fat cats, if they were able to create morphs that work with gear and they're testing them out now (which would be awesome) then we can look forward to something like that. Alternatively the fat cats are just their own model with their own armor associated with that, which would be unfortunate for the whole slider discussion lol.

    I would like them to revisit some older areas, perhaps like how Ishgard will be done depending on how that goes (sounds cool, but we don't know too much lol). For example I think being able to help the Tonberry reconstruct or to uncover Sil'Dih could be fun. I had thought a whole zombie apocalypse going on in the Sil'Dih city could be a fun way to build a civilization of Vivi mammets (like FFIX's vivi village), lots of opportunity to upset the Ul'dah political sphere and cause chaos as this huge rotting horde becomes a threat, and would also give us a neat water city after we save/reconstruct that is partially underground (a magical "Laputa, castle in the sky"-ish city underground (FFXIV's Undercity (WoW's undead capital)). Also given there are whole areas on the map we haven't explored that we could have new zones for (I suggested airships to get there).

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Well, Hrothgar are definitely a lot more interesting as they genuinely look like something different. Viera really do just look like Hyur with bunny ears - which is a shame, since they had more unique features back in FFXII.
    Yeah hopefully there are some options in the editor, or my eyes just need more hands on experience. Could just be not the race for me and that's that lol. But I feel that way. Curious IF they do the males if they'll go similar, as we read Yoshida describe them as basically elvaan with ears, or if they'll give them a bit of difference. Who knows lol.

    New character options would be nice though... Like giving us actual real eyebrows .
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    Last edited by Shougun; 04-20-2019 at 04:17 AM.

  3. #33
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    It's close to what Vieras have always looked like. Hrothgar is for those wanting to look less human or more unique.

    As for the ears, check them out in the Dancer and Viera trailers. They only bounce a little with head movements and aren't animated in other ways. The clipping of the Dancer's blades and the ears seems painful lol.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    New character options would be nice though... Like giving us actual real eyebrows .
    You're asking too much here, friend.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    You're asking too much here, friend.
    ITS A CONSPIRACY!! THEY'RE OUT TO GET ME *HEAVY BREATHING*

    I READ THE LORE, IT SAYS I SHAVE THEM... I SHAVE THEM TO LOOK FiErCE! BUT I DONT- I DONT DO IT, DO I? NOOOOOOO!

    WHO'S SHAVING MY EYEBROWS!? WHO!!!

    .... Every male highlander goes through a crisis point in their life, people have no idea the social anxiety we have. Any one of you could be shaving our eyebrows.. We don't know.

    Is it you? Are you taking my brows? ;(
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    ITS A CONSPIRACY!! THEY'RE OUT TO GET ME *HEAVY BREATHING*

    I READ THE LORE, IT SAYS I SHAVE THEM... I SHAVE THEM TO LOOK FiErCE! BUT I DONT- I DONT DO IT, DO I? NOOOOOOO!

    WHO'S SHAVING MY EYEBROWS!? WHO!!!

    .... Every male highlander goes through a crisis point in their life, people have no idea the social anxiety we have. Any one of you could be shaving our eyebrows.. We don't know.

    Is it you? Are you taking my brows? ;(
    My own collection of eyebrows! Would be like a small army of woolly bears.

    *dreams of stroking the brows*
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  7. #37
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    I had my expectations lowered already but as they said "more customisable" I was expecting at least one more option
    I have no idea why anyone would have anticipated this (you're not the only one) from that "quote." If it is even actually a quote, I'd have to go back and look at it in its full context at this point considering how many ppl I see talking about the MT/OT split as if it were set in stone.

    When I initially saw others mentioning that Viera were going to be "more customizable" I never once thought they were going to have more face/other options, but perhaps additional sliders. Particularly because of the legacy "spaghetti code" they're always citing as the reason why certain things can't be added.

    Existing races already have different sliders for some things, the Muscle slider for example, isn't available to all races, and Tail sliders. Au Ra also have the unique eye "iris ring" options. So I always though perhaps Viera would get some additional sliders... Ear Length and well... they don't have tails so maybe we'll finally see that other slider that's always been popular to ask for.

    Another thing that I've always thought was a valid complaint by Au Ra is that horns are determined by Face selection rather than a separate selection. So... if they actually made ear folds a separate selection that would also increase Viera customization more than other races immediately. Which could be similar to Hrothgar if the horn (and other head ornaments) are a separate selection.
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  8. #38
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    U'semih Gah
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    Bard Lv 80
    Honestly I attribute most of what people believe made the Viera unique to the graphics in FFXII, even Fran in this game still looks to be using her model from the remaster, our own Viera on the other hand and those that will be inhabiting the world will be in FFXIV graphics, the way Fran would also probably look were she not special

    I am personally quite happy with the way Viera are looking furrently, though I would guess that like Hrothgar they will receive more polish by the time the benchmark is out here as it seems like the new races are something that they will be working on until the last minute

    As for their proportions.. i honestly don't see the huge deal on this, they are almost exactly like the Viera in XII and have much less of the "tiny head, super wide shoulders" issue going than elezen do, it's just how they look.

    These models if they do what I'm expecting and give them the "wild/bushy" eyebrows option that female seekers of the sun get will look pretty much exactly like what everyone was asking for, viera, tall beautiful amazonian bunny ladies.
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    Last edited by Aryalandi; 04-20-2019 at 05:22 AM.

  9. #39
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    That hair is so cute. >: I'll most likely get salty because my lala won't get to wear that.
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  10. #40
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    Wynn Storm
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Oh, look. A generic buff, bulky Hyur with a permanent grumpy face.
    Oh look a generic cat boy who wants to be a male viera.

    Look at all the comments on the instagram posts, its just fools whining about male viera.

    Ugh so annoying.
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