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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    I'd be more concerned about the people that needed 13 pages to know how to deal with a simple issue like this.
    I'm more concerned with players being removed from parties because of the voice option they picked. I'm also concerned with people defending said action.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I actually already said what I would do in this situation in the same post I first responded to you in—laugh and shrug it off. Because whoever kicked me is a loser I wouldn’t want to play with anyways. I don’t think I’d bother reporting it because it’s not worth my time. I have reported behaviors in the past I thought were more demanding of a report, but someone getting triggered because he doesn’t like catgirls? Well, that sounds like a personal problem.
    If I'm understanding correctly, you have not been kicked from a party due to your selected race or voice. With that in mind, how can you accurately say how you will respond for being kicked over that. If you spent 20-30 minutes in a 24-person raid, and were kicked at the last boss because your catgirl's voice is too annoying, would you just laugh it off?

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You’re also acting like this is a common trend. Last I heard, it’s not. People don’t get kicked every day for being a Lalafell or because their character has an annoying voice.
    We don't know how often people are kicked for these things, so lets not jump to any conclusions there.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I have been Vote Dismissed before for the silliest of things—explaining mechanics. But the difference there is I just let it go. The dismissal was a blessing anyways. That party was a hot mess.
    You were kicked for something actively did. I have no control over the battle noises my character makes. You do have control over what you put in chat. With the little context given I don't want to weigh in on this that much though.

    Maybe its that tone? /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    If I'm understanding correctly, you have not been kicked from a party due to you selected race or voice. With that in mind, how can you accurately say how you will respond for being kicked over that. If you spent 20-30 minutes in a 24-person raid, and were kicked at the last boss because your catgirl's voice is too annoying, would you just laugh it off?
    Yep. Because I don’t get upset over the little things that have little to no effect on me in the grand scheme of things.

    You can continue to rephrase your question however you like—my answer will stay the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    We don't know how often people are kicked for these things, so lets not jump to any conclusions there.
    Says the person who was insinuating this is a common occurrence?

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    You were kicked for something actively did. I have no control over the battle noises my character makes. You do have control over what you put in chat. With the little context given I don't want to weigh in on this that much though.

    Maybe its that tone? /s
    I suppose it is too much for some people when I say, “Please let the Mustard Gas add eat two poison clouds. Also, please be careful not to run into them, because the poison stacks they give you are not cleansable” after being yelled at for not using Esuna.

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    I'm more concerned with players being removed from parties because of the voice option they picked. I'm also concerned with people defending said action.
    Saying to not let it bother you or to not sweat the small stuff is not the same as someone defending what the kicker did. You keep insist that these things are equatable when they are not.

    It honestly sounds like you need to stop reading things that aren’t actually being said.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-19-2019 at 09:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Yep. Because I don’t get upset over the little things that have little to no effect on me in the grand scheme of things.

    You can continue to rephrase your question however you like—my answer will stay the same.
    Well, not everyone has the luxury of time. Expecting people to be ok with having to devote an additional 30 minutes (plus df time) to re-running content they should not have been kicked from, is really a silly position to take. But if you are fine with it happening to you then good for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Says the person who was insinuating this is a common occurrence?
    Please quote a full statement. This was not insinuated by me.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I suppose it is too much for some people when I say, “Please let the Mustard Gas add eat two poison clouds. Also, please be careful not to run into them, because the poison stacks they give you are not cleansable” after being yelled at for not using Esuna.
    And if we all just ignore improper kicks you'll get to experience this more. But since it gives you a laugh I'm guessing you'd like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    And if we all just ignore improper kicks you'll get to experience this more. But since it gives you a laugh I'm guessing you'd like that.
    There's nothing improper about this kick. A majority of those in the party didn't want them there, so they were removed. This is preferable to people being forced to run with people they don't like, whether or not this comes as an inconvenience to the person that got removed.

    Don't believe the OP, either. We're plainly not getting the whole story, and the fact an image exists tells me there's a good chance the OP themselves was engaging in outright harassing behavior after the kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    There's nothing improper about this kick. A majority of those in the party didn't want them there, so they were removed. This is preferable to people being forced to run with people they don't like, whether or not this comes as an inconvenience to the person that got removed.

    Don't believe the OP, either. We're plainly not getting the whole story, and the fact an image exists tells me there's a good chance the OP themselves was engaging in outright harassing behavior after the kick.
    They messaged me first because we are on the same server and I was talking about it at the FFXV fate because I could barely believe it even happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    There's nothing improper about this kick. A majority of those in the party didn't want them there, so they were removed. This is preferable to people being forced to run with people they don't like, whether or not this comes as an inconvenience to the person that got removed.

    Don't believe the OP, either. We're plainly not getting the whole story, and the fact an image exists tells me there's a good chance the OP themselves was engaging in outright harassing behavior after the kick.
    Here if you don't believe me here's another screenshot.


    So basically as I've said, I /surprised the healer at the very start of the dungeon when she was dcing cause there was nothing else to do and then I did I quick /surprise when she came back to which he said was a good way to get blocked, and I didn't bother responding to him. This image is the entirety of that conversation because after some time of nothing being said I was just kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    There's nothing improper about this kick. A majority of those in the party didn't want them there, so they were removed. This is preferable to people being forced to run with people they don't like, whether or not this comes as an inconvenience to the person that got removed.

    Don't believe the OP, either. We're plainly not getting the whole story, and the fact an image exists tells me there's a good chance the OP themselves was engaging in outright harassing behavior after the kick.
    *jaw drops*
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    Well, not everyone has the luxury of time. Expecting people to be ok with having to devote an additional 30 minutes (plus df time) to re-running content they should not have been kicked from, is really a silly position to take. But if you are fine with it happening to you then good for you.
    I don’t have the luxury of time either, to be honest. In addition to school, I also just like to spend time doing other things that aren’t this game. However, my lack of luxury also means that I don’t spend a lot of my time getting so worked up over small things. There’s no point in letting a loser ruin my day because he was triggered over the race/voice of my video game character or something else that literally doesn’t matter.

    I didn’t say they should be okay with it. I said they should shrug it off and not let it get under their skin/ruin their day. Feel free to quote where I said “be okay with being kicked” though.

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    Please quote a full statement. This was not insinuated by me.
    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    Except it is, and I already said why. You are still allowing the behavior to occur. Obviously making a now 13 page thread will bring attention to the issue, as it is now 13 pages long.
    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    If catgirls started getting kicked from parties because they were annoying, how would you react then?
    These two statements to me kind of make it sound like this “being kicked over a character’s race/voice choice” is a pervasive issue and not just one person being a jerk. I’m feel fairly confident in saying that it’s unlikely people are routinely kicked over their choice of race in a video game.

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    And if we all just ignore improper kicks you'll get to experience this more. But since it gives you a laugh I'm guessing you'd like that.
    Will it though? Last I checked, none of us can tell what the future will bring. This is one dude being a jerk—and, honestly, no matter how hard you try, there will always be jerks. You do seem to be conveniently ignoring where I said one can choose to report if they really feel like the offense was report-worthy. My entire argument (aside from disagreeing with your statement that the two statements provided in several posts now are equivalent) is that people should learn not to let others get under their skin.


    It seems like it really bothers you that I’m not offended by silly things, though. I’m not sure why that is, to be honest.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-19-2019 at 09:37 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I didn’t say they should be okay with it. I said they should shrug it off and not let it get under their skin/ruin their day. Feel free to quote where I said “be okay with being kicked” though.
    Ruined their day? Again with no one insinuating or directly saying something. Leaving a sour taste in someone's mouth with the game, yes I am saying that. Playing games is typically a relaxing pastime for people. How relaxing is being kicked from a party where you did nothing to obstruct gameplay.


    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    These two statements to me kind of make it sound like this “being kicked over a character’s race/voice choice” is a pervasive issue and not just one person being a jerk. I’m feel fairly confident in saying that it’s unlikely people are routinely kicked over their choice of race in a video game.
    That's a bit of a stretch. I'm saying that being kicked over your character's voice is an issue. I have no clue if its happened once or a thousand times, but it should not happen again.


    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Will it though? Last I checked, none of us can tell what the future will bring. This is one dude being a jerk—and, honestly, no matter how hard you try, there will always be jerks. You do seem to be conveniently ignoring where I said one can choose to report if they really feel like the offense was report-worthy. My entire argument (aside from disagreeing with your statement that the two statements provided in several posts now are equivalent) is that people should learn not to let others get under their skin.
    Its not really about people having thin skin. If someone gets kicked for their character's voice, or explaining a mechanic should they go into a depression and never play this game again? No of course not. But things like this do spoil the in game experience.


    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    It seems like it really bothers you that I’m not offended by silly things, though. I’m not sure why that is, to be honest.
    Yet again, I'm not sure where you are getting this from. If you are ok with people kicking you for explaining mechanics, that's fine its your sub lol. But I'll send the question back to you. It seems to bother you that I don't like people being kicked from parties for "silly things".
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