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    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    Imperative sentences are by nature commands from the speaker to the subject. ("Do your homework." "Take the trash out." "Eat your vegetables.") These imply the speaker have some semblance of authority to be issuing a command to the subject. ("I, as your parent, am telling you to do your homework.") There may be no intention of authority, but it implies it all the same.

    Just like when I took cpr training, when they train you on the auto defib, the instructions are not to shout out to a crowd of people for someone to call an ambulance... the directions are to very clearly point at someone and say, "Call 911." You assume and assert authority on the situation.

    Even if there was no issue with what you meant, I was specifically referring to your choice of words.

    Going by the spirit of what you meant - yes, people should be able to easily tell the difference between defending an action and offering advice.
    While I’m glad that you understand the message behind my message, I think you’re reading way too much into the way I talk. This is just the way I talk. I do not sugarcoat; I come across as very blunt. And that is not me intending to sound like any sort of authority figure. That is just the way I talk, and if it comes off aggressive, then all I can do is apologize.

    However, when you have a back and forth with someone insisting “let it go and go about your day” is the same as “what the kicker did was fine; nothing wrong happened”, I think they should learn the difference. Telling them to learn it is not me being aggressive nor am I trying to act as the “forum police”; it’s simply me telling them to learn the difference because there is one. It’s a common trend on this forum through to accuse people of defending actions when they say things like that, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    I'm going to make an edit to your question: do you think everyone that ever has an issue with a duty—be it with Vote Dismissal or something else—should be able to make a thread to vent if they feel the need to.

    I absolutely do think that. Would I want to read them? No, but I don't set the forum's guidelines or standards. If people DID do that, than I expect something would be done about it - like making a separate forum for it, if/when the need justifies it.
    Hmm, that’s not really what I was asking, though. I asked should people make 50 threads about the same thing. And I don’t think they should—because it’s clutter (just look at the healer subforum right now). As I said, though, OP seems new to the OF. So maybe they weren’t aware of the Tales of the Duty Finder thread. I highly suggest posting in there though—and maybe even reading it. Some of the stuff in there is so unbelievable its a bit hilarious.

    But again, my issue isn’t with the existence of the thread. It’s with the misconstruction of a single sentence said by someone else—the twisting it into something it never was.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    You know - this is absolutely fair. I apologize for my aggressive choice of wording.
    Personally, I didn’t find it aggressive. I just found it funny because it was ironic.

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    Except it is, and I already said why. You are still allowing the behavior to occur. Obviously making a now 13 page thread will bring attention to the issue, as it is now 13 pages long.
    Except it is not. There is a difference between someone saying “don’t let it get to you” and “what they did was okay”. “Don’t let it bother you” is advice for your peace of mind. If you can’t see the difference between the two statements, I really don’t know what to tell you.

    This won’t bring attention to the issue. This thread will not be read by a GM—only a report will. No action will come out of it. It’s essentially people commiserating with a few others jumping all over people who think the OP should not let it bother them for their own sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    People like the one OP described aren't worth your time, because you haven't experienced a kick for the reason they were. If catgirls started getting kicked from parties because they were annoying, how would you react then?
    I actually already said what I would do in this situation in the same post I first responded to you in—laugh and shrug it off. Because whoever kicked me is a loser I wouldn’t want to play with anyways. I don’t think I’d bother reporting it because it’s not worth my time. I have reported behaviors in the past I thought were more demanding of a report, but someone getting triggered because he doesn’t like catgirls? Well, that sounds like a personal problem.

    You’re also acting like this is a common trend. Last I heard, it’s not. People don’t get kicked every day for being a Lalafell or because their character has an annoying voice.


    I have been Vote Dismissed before for the silliest of things—explaining mechanics. But the difference there is I just let it go. The dismissal was a blessing anyways. That party was a hot mess.
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