Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Penthea]

I fully support opposition to gender locks. A lot of people have been waiting a very long time for this expansion to happen and have been greatly disappointed by the gender lock announcement. I am sympathedic to them. I've waited a very long time to play a female Viera and I am happy to be able to but have a heavy heart for those who cannot play the gender they desire, no matter what the race.

/signed

There would have been far less controversy if SE had instead given us one race and let people play both genders, instead of two gender-locked races.

No one was expecting hrothgar before the localisation error that lead to a leak. People were asking for a bulkier bestial race but SE had shown zero signs of introducing one, whereas it was obvious that viera was a possibility. They were already super popular from others FF titles, there was a gigantic amount of community support for them, some people in the XIV art team did some viera artwork, and then the Return to Ivalice raid near-confirmed their presence in XIV lore long before we saw Fran. Hrothgar? There is nothing in the game which suggests that they even exist.

This big controversy surrounding gender and race could have been very easily avoided, and players would have been happy again if hrothgar was released in a future expansion. But instead SE chose to give us two halves of totally different things, instead of one thing as a whole. So now the community is quite disappointed.

Though I want female hrothgar far more than male viera, my hatred for gender locking far surpasses my preference for race. I would have been happier with one new race with both genders, than two gender-locked races. Even if we got female hrothgar instead of male. I really hate gender locking.

[DamianFatale]

SE needs to add the missing genders, and add a new small race. Its unfair that Lalafell are the only small race.

Then our game will be perfectly racially balanced.

[Crushnight]

Though I want female hrothgar far more than male viera, my hatred for gender locking far surpasses my preference for race. I would have been happier with one new race with both genders, than two gender-locked races. Even if we got female hrothgar instead of male. I really hate gender locking.

my sentiments as well i would've preferred 1 full race rather than 2 1/2 races i may prefer male viera but if it were full hrothgar race i would be far less disappointed my hate for gender locking races/jobs is far greater than my want for male viera so i hope SE sees the requests for them to be sufficient enough to try adding them

[Beki_Bayaqad]

SE needs to add the missing genders, and add a new small race. Its unfair that Lalafell are the only small race.

Then our game will be perfectly racially balanced.

yes give them far far more work, that'll make them like us.

[JumperX]

yes give them far far more work, that'll make them like us.

It is their job to implement new things in hame. If they get mad, they should have selected another major. It is not like they are doing it for free. If they were doing it for free I would sympathize and say, they might hate us.

[LyraKuroneko]

yes give them far far more work, that'll make them like us.

We're their customer not their buddy. And to be honest, I won't avoid a subject/request because it upset somone, even if a friend.
It's nothing but a request.

[Eoko]

SE needs to add the missing genders, and add a new small race. Its unfair that Lalafell are the only small race.

Then our game will be perfectly racially balanced.

My sister was saying an insect race would be a good choice. Very different and yet plenty of ways to make them humaniod. Especially with the new beast tribe and our mothy friend. You don't see too many insect PCs in games, and it would make sense to make them small. I'm thinking if they have to go humanoid they could do something more praying mantis. Which could also be cool because then the females should be slightly bigger than the males. I mean, I'd be all for a race of winged humanoids where you had a moth clan and a butterfly clan and they just hovered at "standard eye level". I wouldn't think the bodies would have to be anything more than shrunk Hyur or Elezen so that would make modeling gear easier.

The lalafell are definitely the most left out when it comes to size differences. I sort of doubt they would go for another race though. There's a good chance they will end up unlocking their gender locks, but that won't be until they have the resources and time to do it. Which is going to be more like late 5.X or 6.0 at the earliest. There's also a chance that they could have more time within 5.X overall since Eureka really didn't end up being as great as they had hoped and the reason for it really was the developers were bored of making Relic about going back to do old stuff. If they decide to do something more like 3.X relic in 5.X then we could see resources moved in different directions. However, with them already saying these might be our last races, and already likely going to see the pressure of doing their "other halves", that's basically adding another one they didn't expect.

If they did add another one it would have to pretty much use an existing frame with like no modifications to anything other than the head. Which is why I think some small, flying race would be easiest because it would be like... big pupilless eyes, antennae, and wings. Don't have to do anything to the body so you could just take every Midlander set and shrink everything 65% and be done. Not as different but at least would cut work load some. Unfortunately I think the Lalas are going to be stuck being the only little race. Adding a new race isn't really something you would do as an injection to bring people in either. It's too much work to take on unless the game is still in it's peak, and if we saw another race it would likely be 7.0, which would be 4 years away, and that would be around the end of the initial FFXIV model (as conceptualized earlier). Very good chance the game will go on beyond that, but that's also going to be a point where we are likely not going to be at a race adding financial peak.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

Snip.

You don't see bug races in game because they're insanely complicated to animate. You'll never see a bug race in FFXIV because the need to make gear fit, working on animations and just general design would take forever.

Everyone demanding, yes, these aren't requests these are demands, don't understand the amount of work that needs to go into making 1 new character model, much less four. And now you're suggesting something as complicated as an Insectoid? Are you insane?

[Eoko]

You don't see bug races in game because they're insanely complicated to animate. You'll never see a bug race in FFXIV because the need to make gear fit, working on animations and just general design would take forever.

Everyone demanding, yes, these aren't requests these are demands, don't understand the amount of work that needs to go into making 1 new character model, much less four. And now you're suggesting something as complicated as an Insectoid? Are you insane?

Right, because we don't already have faeries, minions that fly, and flying/hovering bosses, many, many of which are in human shape. The animations exist in game. Flying characters would have a static movement pose with limbs and have constant fluttering wings, which we see constantly in this game. They would either lean forward or back, like our mounts do in the air. And the bodies would be exactly proportional to an existing frame. There is nothing insane about the concept. Is it harder than copy and pasting another basic human? Maybe from scratch. But we aren't working from scratch.

But I also said we likely wouldn't get another full race. Why do you think suggesting an idea for a specific suggestion means, at all, that it would be expected? Besides, the mantis version could be entirely human with an arm blade that clips through gear like a tail does. I suggested a flying one because we have models and animations in game already and the model for gear would not be different to an existing model, just smaller. Penthesilea literally moves exactly how a playable winged race would work. Would that be "boring running animation"? Probably. But I don't consider running to be very engaging. It's more meme-y that a flying race needs flying mounts. Clearly their wind aether is not cutting it. I do not care about nor want an insect race. I simply supplied two potential model options to an idea that was mentioned about another small race, that would be humanoid and easier to model, and yet different to what we have. People want to play moogles too, and their bodies do not suit the frame of any playable character to adapt gear from. I'm sorry you think having imagination means I need a video game to supply me with the end result of something I thought of in five minutes. I really have zero investment in seeing such a thing as a reality. My sister literally mentioned an insectoid race, and DamianFatale wanted another small race. That is literally the extent of the effort put into the thought.

[Burningskull]

I have enough bug phobia with the insects we have to fight... let alone seeing people play as them ><