Dancer Gameplay Speculation

[Daralii]

Do you think it will be as long ranged as BRD/MCH? Meaning the 25 yalm range? Or will it be more mid range because it's throwing?

It could pretty easily be justified as them using wind-aspected aether to control the weapons.

[MrKimper]

I could actually see it having more of a SAM set up, say you have steps at the end of a combo or something, you use a "dance" based on what steps you've generated or some such. Then maybe the dance is like a cast.

[linay]

I can see a dance either be something that is casted and lasts over time, something that is channeled, or something that is just simply casted (instant or not) and have an immediate effect with no duration. Ideally, I'd like a variation and have some examples from all three kinds. And if there is a fourth or fifth way, then have those too.

[Nominous]

I expect them to be broken, first off. But before that, Melee DPS is the best example to look at for what to expect, since I think this demonstrates the way I think they want balance within the sub-roles.

NIN- Low DPS/High Support
DRG- Medium DPS/Medium Support
MNK- High DPS/Low Support
SAM- Higher DPS/No support

In Magical Ranged you already see this playing out too. RDM being similar to NIN on that spectrum, SMN being most similar to MNK, and BLM most similar to SAM. With physical ranged, I think you'll see it looking like this:

DNC- Low DPS/High Support
BRD- Medium DPS/Medium Support
MCH- High DPS/Low Support

That being said... What I expect?

I fully expect DNC to have something that rivals Trick Attack. Or, considering their different dances, maybe MULTIPLE ridiculous buffs.

Even though I think their gameplay won't be remotely like AST, I expect and think that's the most similar to what I expect from their buffs/debuffs. At minimum, I expect party-wide Haste, Damage Buffs, and maybe even significant CD reduction on skills (like Arrow used to be, but far more powerful).

I expect Slashing-Damage type, because I don't think they're willing to give up on damage-type debuffs yet. I think their exact line of thought will be that by bringing DNC, you naturally have no reason for DRG, therefore it's smarter to bring a NIN or SAM. Wonder if NIN gets to keep it's slashing debuff :thinking:?

I have no reason to believe, even in the absolute worst-case scenarios, that DNC will not be an immediate lock-in for parties, much like NIN. If I'm being honest, I think if DNC has good enough buffs, NIN might finally be dethroned. In the worst case scenario though, NIN is still good enough to where the meta party ends up being a toss-up between NIN/MNK/DNC/BLM (or SMN), and NIN/DRG/BRD (or MCH)/BLM (or SMN*)
*Bonus points if we have HW parties again, if MCH is busted.

[NessaWyvern]

How do you get simpler than bard? Just plays for you?

TBF, I'd say that RDM is simpler than Bard

[Kahnom]

I hope double-weave ain’t mandatory with Dancer but since its DEX-user ... so ... yeah .. not gonna keep my hopes up.

[Slirith]

I just hope none of it's buffs need to target a party member like AST cards

[Burningskull]

I expect them to be broken, first off. But before that, Melee DPS is the best example to look at for what to expect, since I think this demonstrates the way I think they want balance within the sub-roles.

NIN- Low DPS/High Support
DRG- Medium DPS/Medium Support
MNK- High DPS/Low Support
SAM- Higher DPS/No support

In Magical Ranged you already see this playing out too. RDM being similar to NIN on that spectrum, SMN being most similar to MNK, and BLM most similar to SAM. With physical ranged, I think you'll see it looking like this:

DNC- Low DPS/High Support
BRD- Medium DPS/Medium Support
MCH- High DPS/Low Support

That being said... What I expect?

I fully expect DNC to have something that rivals Trick Attack. Or, considering their different dances, maybe MULTIPLE ridiculous buffs.

Even though I think their gameplay won't be remotely like AST, I expect and think that's the most similar to what I expect from their buffs/debuffs. At minimum, I expect party-wide Haste, Damage Buffs, and maybe even significant CD reduction on skills (like Arrow used to be, but far more powerful).

I expect Slashing-Damage type, because I don't think they're willing to give up on damage-type debuffs yet. I think their exact line of thought will be that by bringing DNC, you naturally have no reason for DRG, therefore it's smarter to bring a NIN or SAM. Wonder if NIN gets to keep it's slashing debuff :thinking:?

I have no reason to believe, even in the absolute worst-case scenarios, that DNC will not be an immediate lock-in for parties, much like NIN. If I'm being honest, I think if DNC has good enough buffs, NIN might finally be dethroned. In the worst case scenario though, NIN is still good enough to where the meta party ends up being a toss-up between NIN/MNK/DNC/BLM (or SMN), and NIN/DRG/BRD (or MCH)/BLM (or SMN*)
*Bonus points if we have HW parties again, if MCH is busted.

What if... they make BRD and MCH physical buffers and DNC be magical buffers?

I just hope none of it's buffs need to target a party member like AST cards

Oh man. I didn't even think of that. Dragon's Sight is such a pain on controller >< Really hope there are no single target buffs.

[Nyvara]

Thinking something like Ninja. Like Dance combos that give you or the team a buff (or debuff the enemy) With Combo Chakram attacks.

I hope to god there are no positionals!

[kidalutz]

I think it'll likely work as a counterpart to bard while bard buffs party the dancer could debuff enemies to make them easier to down. kind of like how dancer worked in fft