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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100

    Dancer Gameplay Speculation

    How do you think Dancer will play?

    I'm thinking it'll have a dance rotation similar to bard's song rotation. You're weaponskills will be a 1 > 2 > 3 rotation that grants combo points to spend on oGCDs, and the OGCDs will change depending on what dance you have going.
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    Katharine Kusakari
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    Kraken
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Maybe it'll be like a ranged Ninja? Can you move and use actions at the same time i wonder....
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I'm hoping it's highly mobile with a medium-complexity rotation and just enough support abilities to be considered important for raiding comps...

    Basically give me a rotation around the complexity of the Warrior. Let me stay in constant motion because I'm twitchy after playing too much Overwatch and that kills my ability to play things like BLM... And I'd like to be on the higher end of DPS, but not like a SAM or RDM where I almost feel guilty for topping the DPS chart...

    I'd like to see some actions that depend on leaping or rolling or whatever to a spot.

    I don't want to see any 'ammo like' mechanic like MCH or DRK's Dark Arts...

    I think the class should be competing in raid comps with the MCH or DRG, not with the BRD, and not with the SAM - please don't make it a "pure DPS" that competes with the SAM... Even the RDM's super easy high DPS rotation at least also has the ability to rez every 2.5 seconds and cast a small heal...

    Oh and... slightly less intense shiny visual spam than I saw in the reveal trailer... though it's too late for that. I like to see my characters, not just a bunch of flashing special effects. I know I can turn them off... but I'd much rather tone them down than lose them completely. And a Dancer seems like the absolute ideal candidate for watching your own character in action.
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I'm guessing it'll offer more support than Bard, but less dps than Bard or Mch.

    As far as actual mechanics, dunno maybe dances consume some kind of resource over time that can only be replenished by doing certain skills in different rotations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    I think the class should be competing in raid comps with the MCH or DRG, not with the BRD, and not with the SAM
    Uh, why not with bard?
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    Maybe it'll be like a ranged Ninja? Can you move and use actions at the same time i wonder....
    that's basically my guess it gets its own version of Mudras like dance steps and each have different buff
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    Markov Dracul
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I'd rather not have a system like mudra's for Dancer. I hate dealing with mudra lag on Ninja already.
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    My guess is that it'll be some sort of BRD/MCH hybrid.

    The 123 combo of MCH

    With oGCD's and Songs of a BRD

    I'm really curious as to how its utility will pan out though...

    Since it sounds very BRD like in its description.

    So I'm concerned that it and BRD will fall into a awful position in balance where either:

    * BRD and DNC will share the same utilities (Passive crit boost, Battle Voice, Foe Requiem) and so whichever one does the highest personal DPS is the one that gets played all the time.

    * BRD and DNC will have different utilities... Thus every party now wants BRD AND DNC limiting the rest of the composition to only 2 other DPS slots, due to how much tDPS these utilities bring.

    Given the current state of DPS balance where party damage boosts are highly sought after because of how effective they are, not only due to amping the other DPS but also amping the Tanks and Healers to boot. Which makes party damage boosts just way too strong and makes jobs that offer little to no damage boosts in an awkward spot as they just don't bring enough damage to justify their spot (With some exceptions like some comps are running a BLM with SMN because Contagion is pretty sick for BLM)
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    My guess is that it'll be some sort of BRD/MCH hybrid.

    The 123 combo of MCH

    With oGCD's and Songs of a BRD

    I'm really curious as to how its utility will pan out though...

    Since it sounds very BRD like in its description.

    So I'm concerned that it and BRD will fall into a awful position in balance where either:

    * BRD and DNC will share the same utilities (Passive crit boost, Battle Voice, Foe Requiem) and so whichever one does the highest personal DPS is the one that gets played all the time.

    * BRD and DNC will have different utilities... Thus every party now wants BRD AND DNC limiting the rest of the composition to only 2 other DPS slots, due to how much tDPS these utilities bring.

    Given the current state of DPS balance where party damage boosts are highly sought after because of how effective they are, not only due to amping the other DPS but also amping the Tanks and Healers to boot. Which makes party damage boosts just way too strong and makes jobs that offer little to no damage boosts in an awkward spot as they just don't bring enough damage to justify their spot (With some exceptions like some comps are running a BLM with SMN because Contagion is pretty sick for BLM)
    I won't be surprised if DNC's utility is more defensive(healing on hit was a big part of the job's popularity in XI), which would pretty much put the two jobs in the same spot RDM and BLM/SMN are right now. It could also depend more on the overall meta, since it seems like DNC is likely to do slashing instead of piercing.
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I think they will give BRD, MCH, and DNC pretty much the same utilities and even out their damage. If they remove Slashing, Piercing, and Blunt damage and just make everything Physical or Magical then you would be able to take which ever job you wanted. Only thing that would be different about them would be how they play / feel.
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