Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Roda]

Love the wedges.

[Madiera]

Ha ha, no, their decision was mentioned several times. On this thread and in most of the other veira threads too.

And to which, they said they were reviewing player feedback. They've changed things before based on player feedback (see the issues in the past with player housing), to which, there's no reason that your opinion is more valid than anyone else's.

Personally, I ignore people who don't contribute anything to the topic at hand. If those folks just wanna pop on here, probably after hearing how popular these threads STILL are (thumbsup!) and decide to try and be toxic about it, that's fine. They can be the petulant brats, we'll ignore them and continue on.

SE/Yoshi is trying to sell us a product, we're expressing our concerns and/or reservations about said pushed product, instead of inhaling whatever they shove at us. I personally dislike fanboys/zealots and would rather we focus more upon positive discussions/debates rather than debasing ourselves by responding to those who come here looking to "troll".

Remember folks, don't feed the trolls. Ignore them and just continue on, if they want to have a proper debate/discussion, that's fine, but don't let them bait you.

[Senn]

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Agreed. There will probably be people who unknowingly post art that has already been shown in the thread. Let's try to avoid posting the same thing if possible.
However, I think it's ok to post art that has already been posted if there's something specific about that art piece you want to discuss.

Also guys, if people post hostile comments, just ignore it. I welcome people who disagree with the implementation of male viera to discuss their opinions here, but if they are being rude about it, I suggest you guys not respond.

I can only speak for myself when I say I'm not trying to shut you down because of your opinion, but because of your scorn and negative attitude. Reflect on yourself and come back when you're ready to have an actual respectful discussion.

[Senn]

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Thanks for saying that Beki. I'm sure there are people here who would just like to have a chill conversation with you.

[Duskane]

Beki cant blame mr kimper entirely for back and forth jabs when you have done the same so much where mods have deleted some of your post
Went from 20 post when you started to 13 the next day.

[MrKimper]

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I appreciate this and I don't mean that in a condescending way, my posts have equally been as abrasive and I apologize for that, I may disagree but as I've stated I respect people who do not want male viera for lore reasons.

[Kelryth]

I have read EVERY POST in this thread from the beginning and I don't remember anything hostile in regards to Hrothgar. In fact I think they will make a fine addition to the game. Hopefully even female Hrothgar in time. I'd check them out in an alt but I don't think I'll switch races on this character or my Lalafel on Excalibur. I hope they have a muscle slider...lol




High Res: https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArXBYkP90eNAiDgDLQ6htYQ_Pvw6

[Beki_Bayaqad]

Beki cant blame mr kimper entirely for back and forth jabs when you have done the same so much where mods have deleted some of your post
Went from 20 post when you started to 13 the next day.

I didn't. I blamed myself for *starting* the jab fight. And I took a 10 day ban for being that sort of jackass.

[RicaRuin]

Since the Thread is prone to it, here'a reminder to please name the artist and not just share Artwork uncommented. You can help that artist get attention. And those liking the art, please go check out the artist and like/retweet/reblog their work. It's only fair.

And now proceed with your mission.

[Lauront]

I will honestly admit that this is inflammatory and very very rude, as are several other posts about "cry mores" and "ain't it sads," as well a some of my own post and I personally would flag them but this isn't really my "fight" as it is. I, personally, don't want male Veira to be playable since the lore established in this game makes them even more elusive and rare then any other lore from other games since they're already on the low birth rate side and are also vetted by way of natural selection.

That's all fair enough, but then you run into the issue of mooncats, with similar birth rates, and WHM. There is not much in the game rarer than a WHM at the moment. Yet the WoL can play one. Why? Because the WoL (soon, WOD) is an exception, being the chosen champion of the Mothercrystal. I don't think the lore is a particularly solid reason for them not to exist in XIV, and the developers - both Yoshida and Matsuno - have explicitly come out and said it's not the reason for it. They've even mooted possible designs for them. The main issue here is resource limitations, and not the lore. The lore was mainly written that way to dovetail with the driving factor, and not the other way around.