Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
Let's also not forget that all this self proclaimed "successful outrage" is next on invisible on the 25 paged thread about not just Male Viera but also Female Hrothgar on the JPN side of this forum where players are actually reasonable on this topic. Many other forums about this game seem to have grown tired of this topic as well.
Word count my dude

Again my observation is based off of objective polling data nothing more nothing less, as you've stated in your "critique" of posters in support of male viera, anecdotal evidence such as. "I've SEEN the demand, I've READ the posts" as for male elezen, there's about a 4000 player difference, you could quite literally say the same thing for female viera not being added in but it's obvious the issue with Elezen is not it's body type but it's proportions, an issue that Roe doesn't really suffer from, as janky as some of it's animations are, proportional? yeah they're pretty much what you'd want from a "buff" race. Au ra pretty much covers the other spectrum being more broad and less lanky than the male elezen, the only other "buff" race we have to go on are highlanders which we can't see the data for based on that chart because of the fact that everything else is just "Hyur"

And again by that line of thought lalafell and miqo'te are the most played male race if we discount hyur again, there's more than about double the amount of people playing male miqo's than there are roe's. I'm simply again stating that you cannot cite something as OBJECTIVELY being more in demand than something else, when there is no real data to back up said assertion.

Yoshida wanted to meet the demand he felt for a beastly race as well the dev team feeling like it would add more to the races as a whole, Viera was added in due to how much the fans demanded them. Trying to use the demand for a beastly race as a way to downplay the desire for male viera is in my opinion an incorrect argument, especially when your justification is that MORE people OBJECTIVELY want a beastly buff race, when popular racial trends as well as previous official polls don't support this.

The veira lore has been in place since FFXII way back in 2008. Before that Male Veira literally didn't exist.
My entire issue with you Baki is that there is only one game where male viera has not "existed" and that was advance where we know for a fact the world is not truly ivalice but a fantasy made by Mewt, in all other games it can be inferred that Male viera DO exist as almost all further titles in the ivalice line take place in the timeline of XII as I've stated, which is before the cataclysm which whipped out the fairy tale races (Bangaa, Moogle, Viera).
Yes they have not been seen, and you can argue that this tradition should continue in respect of the lore but my issue is you stating that male viera LITERALLY did not exist in XII which is wrong.