Incoming Astra/Scholar Nerfs

[CelestaRosa]

Scholar -
actually nerfs ->
Eos - getting Nerf in some way
Scholars - ability to shield others is being nerfed. in someway. however balance being shifted little towards healing actual shielding-
some of their atherflow abilities are also getting nerfed or changed

but
selene is getting slightly buffed
3rd healing pet being added to scholar kit

- Astra - gains more of neutral nerfing
reworking of the Astra Tarot Card System. their buffs/utility makes them too strong cause this pretty much makes them auto-include. and gives them edge over the other two healers. not giving suggestions how they can fix this. will all fairness all healers deserve a chance not one preferred over the others "balance"
- however say that new healing and damage opinions will be open to them, to balance out the lose of some of their more critical buffing ability
- however buffing still be primary thing for Asta just not as strong as it is now.
- unique ways to heal and damage your enemies
- something being done to the the sects or healer stances - not saying this is nerf but say its buff either but over all improvement to astas playstyle

what ya think about this. actual tarot cards actually had 2 functions right side up, or right side down. and giving tarot reading you dont know what card you pulled until it was revealed

amount control you have over your rng. with no penalties goes against what tarot cards are not every future you tell is a good one

maybe have soe of your cards place negative effects on your enemies instead of just buffing players

lets say you drew a "death card" in reallife tarot readings have 2 different meanings

[Laphael]

FF14 has a good history of not nerfing the good jobs, but buffing the weaker jobs.
I hope they will keep that with Shb.

It always feels better for the players if something gets buffed instead of nerfed.

[UserHere]

You have been on theory crafting overdrive Rosa. Let's wait until we learn more about the battle system changes next month. Please?

[CelestaRosa]

FF14 has a good history of not nerfing the good jobs, but buffing the weaker jobs.
I hope they will keep that with Shb.

It always feels better for the players if something gets buffed instead of nerfed.

what history you talkin about not remeber stormblood what they did to white-mage wouldn't actually call that a good history of not nerfing

[CelestaRosa]

You have been on theory crafting overdrive Rosa. Let's wait until we learn more about the battle system changes next month. Please?

their revealing more next mouth. woot

[Kurando]

We've gone over this, WHM wasn't nerfed in SB, it's just the other jobs got buffs over time making them better in comparison. WHM just wasn't buffed enough to keep with the other healers that's all.

[Seraphor]

The "two readings" is actually something I'd like to see with AST.
Preferably one reading in Diurnal Sect and another in Nocturnal Sect.
The Nocturnal readings could be the opposite effects, inflicted on enemies as debuffs instead of party buffs.
Balance: Target deals 10% less damage (basically Reprisal)
Bole: Target suffers 10% more damage (Trick attack)
Arrow: Slow
Spear: Lower crit
Ewer: Inflicts a DoT?
Spire: ??? depends what the regular Spire is changed to.

Because most of the existing card effects are rDPS increases (damage, crit and speed) these Nocturnal versions would end up being more defensive in nature, gimping enemies, with only the Bole being a DPS increase, and maybe Ewer. This better fits the 'shielding' defensive aspect of Nocturnal Sect.

This way, when you have a Dual-AST composition, you're not overwriting each others cards and wasting them entirely.

It could mean that Duirnal-Balance and Nocturnal-Bole would be a bit OP, so perhaps their potencies could be reduced.
I'm not entirely sure why they feel the need to keep everything rounded to the tens, an 8% effect on all four options would work just as well and then only result in a 16% effect when combined.

[Airym]

Celesta, there are 13 threads started by you on the first page of this forum. Can you please just consolidate everything in one thread?

[Seraphor]

Celesta, there are 13 threads started by you on the first page of this forum. Can you please just consolidate everything in one thread?

All her other topics are WHM focused, so yeah, but this one can stand on its own.

[CelestaRosa]

We've gone over this, WHM wasn't nerfed in SB, it's just the other jobs got buffs over time making them better in comparison. WHM just wasn't buffed enough to keep with the other healers that's all.

did ya not see what they did to holy? i did we lost stoneskin and stoneskin 2. not saying fluid aura was amazing skill cause it wasn't not they nerfed that as well to mention toke them nearly forever to buff assize. then they toke a lot of white only skills made them roll skills. was giving a broken lily system. they refuse to address until 5.0 probably not even gonna explain then amount of salt i feel as whm main. saying that someone in squire enixs really loves fluid aura and repose when compared to stoneskin ask yourself watch of two were more useful