Why Does A Fierce Race Of Female Warriors...

[Joven]

People can wear pretty much what they want in the west.
People can design their female characters how they like.
People are allowed to be offended and comment on things.
And the devs can (and do) do what they like.

1. Until someone decides it's "problematic"
2. See #1
3. True, but just because someone is offended by something doesn't automatically make that something wrong.
4. False. If this thread and the ones that are demanding male Viera are any indication then the devs most certainly can not do what they like because if they could then none of us would be having these discussions.

[Lihtleita]

because they hijacked a design from over 10 years ago, had they designed their own version of viera i doubt theyed have that racial gear.

[Jandor]

What?
Where did I say people can't wear what they want? and everything else you just mentioned? what are you talking about?

You said there is a double standard, that our society is judgemental, and that if women show skin then everyone around them goes mental.

The thing is though, both in society in general and specifically in game, people are generally fine with other people dressing how they like.
You get some jokes about bikini tanks, and threads like this (where incidentally OP appears to have come around on the issue) but society is generally very live and let live.

[Joven]

because they hijacked a design from over 10 years ago, had they designed their own version of viera i doubt theyed have that racial gear.

They didn't "hijack" anything. These are the same Viera that appeared in FFXII so it would stand to reason that they would still look the same.

[Wynn_Storm]

Has someone been living under a rock?

Its obviously inspired by Fran's outfit.

And not only that, Viera was shown wearing this months ago.

You are super late.

[Lihtleita]

They didn't "hijack" anything. These are the same Viera that appeared in FFXII so it would stand to reason that they would still look the same.

thats.....exactly what hijacking is. taking something from somewhere else. they took the viera from ff12 and implemented them in ff14. how did you read what i wrote

[xxvaynxx]

You said there is a double standard, that our society is judgemental, and that if women show skin then everyone around them goes mental.

The thing is though, both in society in general and specifically in game, people are generally fine with other people dressing how they like.
You get some jokes about bikini tanks, and threads like this (where incidentally OP appears to have come around on the issue) but society is generally very live and let live.

That still doesn't imply me saying people can't wear what they want though?
Feels like you're trying to make it that way and putting words in my mouth.

Either way, not trying to offend you so please don't take it as such, but you're very naive to believe people are "live and let live" more so when it comes to how people dress, specifically females in video games and how they should be depicted.
If we were so nonchalant about it, this topic wouldn't even have happened and censoring wouldn't even be a thing.

[Ceridwenae]

I certainly would roll a bunnygirl
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

In all seriousness though, how is this a problem? The Hrothgar are essentially shirtless and no-one's batting an eye. But heaven forbid a woman shows skin. I'm nowhere near as buff as a Hrothgar, but I'm not so insecure about my size and weight to go so far as to say "buff, shirtless men are problematic!" I see them and say "Hells yeah, they look awesome!"

If I said I don't fancy buff lion chaps, they're not sexy, attractive, or anything I'd want to spend time looking at the arse of, and I would never want to imagine being a sexy bunny girl because it's similarly unattractive to me; but I would like being a buff lion lady in a way I can't be in real life, or would like to punt around a sexy bunny boy because nom would it help you to understand just a little? We could say it's perhaps the same as what you want and are in fact getting, but the reverse. This is just the bare bones, of course.

This incoming thing that appears to be a traditional male power fantasy does not float my boat at all. On one hand, I don't fuss about it being there because the men and ladies who like it do need to have their fantasy (I'm so generous ); Even if it seems to be pandering to outdated stereotypes (buff animalistic male and bunny girl; "Me Tarzan, you Jane"), it has its place as for some reason it clearly speaks to some people still. I may not like it, but as long as the attitude is kept strictly in fantasy (and not real life, which is where further issues with this stereotype lie, even if they do not appear to directly affect some people in their opinion). It can even be fun to play with those stereotypes if you're informed about it and are willing. It's just those are not the only caricatures that can be played with (and I'm not saying they will be, it's just how these races are currently being presented to us - it could all change in the actual expansion).

Although I can't make an equally nommy bunny boi or buff !grr! lion lady that I'm currently are aware of, I'm incredibly hopeful that SE will change this at launch, or soon enough after. I think all this other stuff would then just be part and parcel of the world - it would be more in keeping with the fact we can play our gender counterparts and fantasies in all the races.

I hope this helps, even just a bit, for you and others to understand why this became an issue. Of course, it's only from my perspective, so you cannot take this as the sole explanation. Other people, with other experiences, may think differently and should not be discounted. Also, I don't intend to shoot any happy people down with my opinion; I simply think we should all have equal chance to fulfil our little fantasies in a game, and we should be thoughtful and sensitive to the needs and wishes of others when it comes to these highly personal choices.

[Jandor]

That still doesn't imply me saying people can't wear what they want though?
Feels like you're trying to make it that way and putting words in my mouth.

Maybe I read intent that wasn't there, my bad if that's the case.

Either way, not trying to offend you but you're very naive to believe people are "live and let live" more so when it comes to how people dress, specifically females in video games and how they should be depicted.
If we were so nonchalant about it, this topic wouldn't even have happened and censoring wouldn't even be a thing.

I mean, people are "live and let live." Yeah some people are going to rag on how others are dressed, some are going to moan about things, declare it's "oh so scandalous" or whatever, but rarely is any actual action taken to change anything, even with video game characters it's mostly just noise that amounts to nothing.

We've got this topic about it for example, and it'll amount to a fat load of nothing in the end, the Viera will arrive in ShB and they'll be wearing what they were wearing in the reveal trailer.

[Joven]

thats.....exactly what hijacking is. taking something from somewhere else. they took the viera from ff12 and implemented them in ff14. how did you read what i wrote

My bad. I've had about 6 real hours of sleep over the last three days and had a momentary brain/finger disconnect.