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  1. #71
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    killstein's Avatar
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    Ark Vuilocand
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    Would it have killed them to make the Veena render darker skinned? They both look Rava lol.
    other way around, rava are the darker skinned clan... but i agree. i'm also "hmm" about the only identifying feature between the two clans is their... skin colour? ._. although i'm inclined to believe that even tho rava are darker skinned and veena are lighter, the colour palette choices can allow for a tanner veena and vice versa.
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  2. #72
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    Technically but not exactly, the Horns on Au Ra are entirely cosmetic, If there was an option to not have them then most probably would pick that since they get in all of the ways.
    Actually au ra horns act as their ears. They hear sound from vibrations in their horns.
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  3. #73
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    Ridruna Ravenwatch
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    Last edited by Nonuel; 05-26-2019 at 02:37 PM.

  4. #74
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    Would it have killed them to make the Veena render darker skinned? They both look Rava lol.
    That does irk me quite a lot, like it goes from pale to...lightly tanned?

    Buuuuuut there's a nice thing in the descriptions that only mentions their opposite sex being "rare" (in both Viera and Hrothgar), opening them up for adding the missing genders later down the road. In fact, the male Viera even contradicts the dramaturge now. "Males of age are seldom, if ever, found within the bounds of any village" instead of "to us, they might not exist" the whole "prohibited from contact with the outside world" would apply to both men and women, as well.

    Hrothgar on the other hand, handwaves it even easier, "rarely so much as glimpsed by the other races" still implies they've been seen and we know they exist, and since the PC is always an outlier that belongs nowhere, it's a decent excuse to bring them later down the line
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    Maybe they should have given Curtis green skin instead of dark brown, then people wouldn't make real-world connections. Instead, and I'm not sorry for calling it out, it looks like casual racism. They should really work on that.
    I'm goign to say no on the simple grounds that you have the option to make a -dark-skinned character so it's not racism. Can we not over react?
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  6. #76
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    I'm actually warming to the Hrothgar. I like the lore I've read. Looking forward to making one when the benchmark drops.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    Maybe they should have given Curtis green skin instead of dark brown, then people wouldn't make real-world connections. Instead, and I'm not sorry for calling it out, it looks like casual racism. They should really work on that.
    Ok, that's a great point. Maybe I should put more thought into the overall real-life social implications my online videogame could have the next time I see people with horns fighting dragons by shooting magic along-side midget people in full armor doing 30 foot backflips on a circular arena in the sky.
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  8. #78
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    Ceolred Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Ok, that's a great point. Maybe I should put more thought into the overall real-life social implications my online videogame could have the next time I see people with horns fighting dragons by shooting magic along-side midget people in full armor doing 30 foot backflips on a circular arena in the sky.
    Like, I'm not offended by it, I just thought it was really strange for them to make her dad so dark when Lyse is so fair skinned. Why would they do that? Even in the XIV world kids tend to look like their parents. It makes 0 sense for her dad to be so dark and Lyse to be so light skinned.
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  9. #79
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    Last edited by Nonuel; 05-26-2019 at 02:20 PM.

  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Like, I'm not offended by it, I just thought it was really strange for them to make her dad so dark when Lyse is so fair skinned. Why would they do that? Even in the XIV world kids tend to look like their parents. It makes 0 sense for her dad to be so dark and Lyse to be so light skinned.
    Absolutely, it does make little sense and to be honest it took me for a whirl too, but is it really that strange compared to everything else that happens in the game?

    Stretching it from "that's a bit odd" to "OMG racism" is what bothers me, especially when you are painting a whole group of hard-working intelligent people (that you don't know personally and for all you know could be the least racist people on this planet) as racist is absurdist and way more offensive than anything being implied in the game to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    It looks racist to not be able to include any black females in the game
    But you can? I'm not sure who's doing gymnastics here, but you're definitely the one making stuff up now.

    You keep calling people you've never met in your life racist if that's what floats your boat. I'd rather judge people by the content of their character and not some arbitrary measure like what colour their fictional characters are.
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    Last edited by Colino; 04-12-2019 at 02:06 AM.

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