Custom tailor Viera and Hrothgar gear to their appearance

[Aryalandi]

Why should these new races get more special treatment than the others?

Au Ra don't get their culturally-significant shredded hems and scale-patterned belts, even on the nomad costume designed entirely for an Auri culture.

Elezen don't get better tailoring or the "exquisite silverwork" referred to in the lorebook description of their gear.

Roegadyn don't get their "unique cross-stitched" leather armguards.

Lalafell don't get "traditional" scarves to wear over anything but their starter gear.


Just because Viera and Hrothgar are (maybe) the last races to be added doesn't make them more special than the existing ones. Either we get new racially-tailored gear for everyone, or - most likely - for no-one. If you want "culturally appropriate" gear for your character, you have to reuse your starter gear the same as everyone else, or find things that fit their description.

If you want your Viera dragoon to have the lacy fabric, you'll just have to substitute the starter gear. It covers about the same amount of skin.

The thing is: on my male au'ra i generally ended up doing exactly this, as I could never find anything to wear that looked better on him than his starter armor set due to the combination between his build and overall appearance,

If you want to call it unfair that I'm asking for special treatment for new races I never specifically said that older ones /shouldn't/ get custom tailored gear, in fact before I edited my original post I specifically pointed out the fact that I've always been puzzled by the fact that there is next to no variation between races, which was similarly immediately latched on to as a simple time and money saver

I would love it if everyone had their own unique sets for glamour, how many characters do you suppose I've had over my time playing? Because there have been dozens of every race and gender combination being styled after everything from my tribal huntress miqo'te in her new world and skyhunter glamour to my straight out of Ishgard knightly female Elezen to gladiator styled highlander hyur.

And honestly I can't call what female miqo'te wear "traditional" by any stretch of the word given that in spite of calling what you're wearing a loincloth etc just as they did in FFXI it's a skirt, you may continue being salty at me if you wish.

You can find fashion for most characters, Viera and Hrothgar simply don't walk around in gear that's as easily swapped out as everyone elses---which is why there is a delay on the helmets as was previously pointed out.

Having gear available that compliments what a character starts out looking like is quite nice, I won't apologize for liking my characters to be able to show off what makes them special and unique to me, for example it isn't at all cultural that my pale skinned xaela mage wears an ink blue thavnairian bustier with a dancer styled loincloth to show off her scales as much as possible, because those midnight blue scales on her skin make her unique and the clothing fits her being a black mage in Ul'dah quite well

Every outfit for every character I've had has been based entirely around showing off what makes them different: custom glamour outfits would just make it easier,

Viera in general in and away from their homes wear similar outfits, if you look up a video of them you'll likely find a pair walking through a city, they are completely unrelated to Fran but still have similar clothing, the Viera where Fran once lived? Similar clothing, it stands out, it's something special to them, the headpiece some wear highlight their ears and draw attention to what makes them different, the heels at one point highlighted the different structure of their feet in some lore that may no longer be considered valid, that made them different.

Scrounging together random pieces of gear trying to make something work doesn't particularly sound appealing to me any more than it did on my previously mentioned au'ra guy who wore a recolored version of his starter gear until I got him into a bit of complimentary armor at a significantly higher level

I'd rather not have that issue again when it's easily mended, I'd rather get flack for asking for something special for a character that I'll be spending hundreds of hours on all over again, much like everyone else has a right to ask for and hope for what they want.

[Iscah]

If you want to call it unfair that I'm asking for special treatment for new races I never specifically said that older ones /shouldn't/ get custom tailored gear, in fact before I edited my original post I specifically pointed out the fact that I've always been puzzled by the fact that there is next to no variation between races, which was similarly immediately latched on to as a simple time and money saver

You never "specifically" said that the older ones shouldn't get it, but you emphasised Viera and Hrothgar, and said (copy-pasted from your original post) "it would be nice if they were more unique than the races we have now in their fashion". Therefore, suggesting that only they should get customised gear.

If everyone gets new custom gear, great.

But not "these two races get something special" while everyone else misses out.


I've been through the same struggle keeping my male Au Ra dressed in things that suit him, but it would be a great deal more frustrating if other races got special treatment and race-specific alterations to gear, but he doesn't.

Seriously, if they haven't made any effort to adjust clothing for Au Ra build that direly needs it (eg. simply stretching the Hyuran model for collars and pauldrons until you get things like the Lv70 SMN relic that stabs him in the face, instead of modifying them to fit properly) then I don't see why they would make extra-special new designs for these new races. Especially if they haven't even got helmets sorted out.

It would be nice to have it for everyone, but not so nice to have it for just the new races while the others go neglected - unless they intend to go back and modify the others as well.

(And of course if they did modify it? People wouldn't be happy about that either because they wanted the standard version and they're stuck with the altered one.)

[Aryalandi]

You never "specifically" said that the older ones shouldn't get it, but you emphasised Viera and Hrothgar, and said (copy-pasted from your original post) "it would be nice if they were more unique than the races we have now in their fashion". Therefore, suggesting that only they should get customised gear.

If everyone gets new custom gear, great.

But not "these two races get something special" while everyone else misses out.


I've been through the same struggle keeping my male Au Ra dressed in things that suit him, but it would be a great deal more frustrating if other races got special treatment and race-specific alterations to gear, but he doesn't.

Seriously, if they haven't made any effort to adjust clothing for Au Ra build that direly needs it (eg. simply stretching the Hyuran model for collars and pauldrons until you get things like the Lv70 SMN relic that stabs him in the face, instead of modifying them to fit properly) then I don't see why they would make extra-special new designs for these new races. Especially if they haven't even got helmets sorted out.

It would be nice to have it for everyone, but not so nice to have it for just the new races while the others go neglected - unless they intend to go back and modify the others as well.

(And of course if they did modify it? People wouldn't be happy about that either because they wanted the standard version and they're stuck with the altered one.)

*whispers* so lobby for special race gear, and updates for things.

No one is stopping you, if it's so important to you that you would bash this topic just because I place more importance on my interests than on yours obviously it is something to be vocal about yourself.

Also, i edited my original post awhile ago to have this be specifically vendor sold glamor partly for that exact reason, some people want to look the same as everyone else, and it would be more practical than just replacing existing gear sets

And beyond that I can very easily argue that you can already dress like most any shown culture or race in the game as the existing races, for example if you want to look like a U tribe miqo'te the gear is available, if you want to look like a knight from Ishgard the gear is available, if you want to look like a pirate or gladiator the gear is available, if you want to look like you came from Doma the gear is available

What I want to look like is a /Viera/ who started out wearing an outfit custom tailored to herself, based on what her people typically wear, which was then upgraded to look fancier and more class appropriate because I'm a much higher level now while it is still recognizable as the same fashion as the original, I'm still the same person, I'm still retaining who I started off as, I'm just much more awesome now and added to it. "I'm still me, I'm just a better version of me."

It would be amazing for everyone to have, I'd love that truthfully, but to be honest besides a couple of exceptions none of the race outfits until now have really stood out much from what's already available, and I can very easily find a much more preferable look for those characters very quickly, male au'ra aside, and as I will be playing a certain character it's selfishly not really my focus in this topic as I'm more concerned with a character that I will have who will be difficult to shop for for much the same reason as my au'ra was, because I couldn't dress him up without taking away everything I liked about him to begin with

which is a problem that I've never had on the "vanilla" races except for lalafel not having shoulders.. as the others a similarly built and wear similar clothing, thus I didn't see a need to have them be a focus here.

Truthfully I'm fully expecting that when the Viera are introduced there will eventually be outfits you can buy for them styled after whatever they wear where they are from, but it would be nice to have it tied into achieving something beyond how many millions of gil you have or how much you're willing to shell out in the mog station to look unique while still being early on enough to not be literally locked behind multiple expansions, thus---I'm level 50, now I can get a nice outfit for my Viera that I worked on while still retaining some individuality! woo

[Iscah]

No one is stopping you, if it's so important to you that you would bash this topic just because I place more importance on my interests than on yours obviously it is something to be vocal about yourself.

I'm not exactly objecting to you wanting it, it's the "only Viera need special treatment" tack you're taking. (You seem to have stopped talking about Hrothgar.) Au Ra needed it at least as much and didn't get it. What makes you think you'll get "three outfits" especially for Viera while not seeing a need to cater to the other races?

I'd have no objection to you asking for new "racial gear" items in general, it's the special treatment.

And beyond that I can very easily argue that you can already dress like most any shown culture or race in the game as the existing races, for example if you want to look like a U tribe miqo'te the gear is available, if you want to look like a knight from Ishgard the gear is available, if you want to look like a pirate or gladiator the gear is available, if you want to look like you came from Doma the gear is available

That's because the U tribe wear the same gear you can buy from any capital city in the game. They didn't get special U tribe cultural gear.

It's also why you can dress in an assortment of Xaela tribes' "cultural dress" using Ala Mhigan, Thavnairian, PVP, Shisui swimwear and generic casual gear (ponchos) - they didn't get unique tribal gear, they just got put in anything vaguely tribal-looking. The M tribe Sunseekers all got Expeditioner gear.

You can hope for special Viera gear, but the closest thing so far has been to either repurpose old vaguely-appropriate gear, or make new gear that primarily gets used for those NPCs but is also available as leveling gear for all races. And Viera aren't anything special, body-proportion-wise, that would call for unique gear models at a practical level - besides the ill-fated helmets and maybe footwear.

I would highly expect the tribal Viera to be in similarly repurposed gear, not-yet-seen leveling/dungeon gear (most likely whatever drops in a Rak'tika-linked dungeon) or starter gear - but it's worth pointing out that none of the Xaela tribe costumes seem to have used Au Ra starter gear, despite it being described as their traditional clothing.



If the least you'll "settle for" is three special new outfits (implying you actually want more than that)... again, what would make one race so special, other than temporarily being "new", to get all that attention when there are fifteen other character-models also with unique cultures that don't get the same treatment?