Main Scenario Roulette streamlining suggestion

[Gemina]

They should just have an option you can adjust in Duty Finder similar to choosing if you want to sync to min il, be a FL Freelancer etc. There should be just be two simple options:

1.Allow for you to skip cutscenes BUT make the rewards what they used to be before the adjustment (which were much more reduced). This allows people to still run the content with skipping the cutscenes but reduces the rewards to justify allowing the skip.

2. Allow you to run the two as they currently are and keep the rewards the exact same.

People are going to run it for the exp/poetics on both ends, and as we get near ShB where everyone will have a job they need to level to 80 it makes so much more sense to have these two options.

All you're doing here is dividing the players new to the instance from everyone else. They'll be in the queue forever waiting for it to fill up, and likely will come to the eventual decision to take the skippable cut scene option putting us right back where we were before they made them unskippable.

tbh the xp should be trippled from what it is and so should tomes since we forced 2 watch a rerun movie every q

They already did that.
4.2

And then updated to reflect Tomestones of creation being eliminated, and Tomestones of genesis added
4.4

[DumdogsWorld]

The rewards for the main scenario roulette were boosted through the roof because of the cutscenes. They're rewarding you for putting up with it. As an unusually patient and tolerant person, I love the extra 50 tomestones per day I can get just by saying lame jokes in party chat.

However....these rewards apply to the roulette. Roulettes also tend to include players who didn't technically sign up for the roulette itself (first-time clears and/or manually selecting a duty to run).

At the minimum, I think unsynced runs should be immune to this cutscene stuff. You get no rewards from unsynced runs, and every party member has to join manually. Any new players in such a run would most likely already know what they're getting themselves into.

[Kurando]

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This is what will happen if there are two versions of those duties. New players that want to watch the cutscenes will pick the longer option, however players not interested (those who want bonus) will not run this if there is a shorter option, causing queue times to be effected greatly for the former. If the shorter duty has skippable CS then the reduced reward will not make it worth running as the time spent will not reflect the bonus at the end. So we will have two versions of each duty for no reason, and besides you can't change duty finder options (such as min ilvl etc) for the Roulettes, and that's what players are queuing for.

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It was practically tripled already, besides as it's already been mentioned, unless you are a first timer then the duties are not forced on any one in any way, it's completely optional for repeaters to queue up for it.

[linay]

At the minimum, I think unsynced runs should be immune to this cutscene stuff. You get no rewards from unsynced runs, and every party member has to join manually. Any new players in such a run would most likely already know what they're getting themselves into.

What's the point of doing it unsynced? It's really easy to do when synced and you're losing out on a lot of experience points doing it unsynced.

[DumdogsWorld]

What's the point of doing it unsynced? It's really easy to do when synced and you're losing out on a lot of experience points doing it unsynced.

I've known people who do their first-clears unsynced just because they don't want a random group. It's not a common scenario, but sometimes it happens.

My point was that the cutscenes shouldn't plague us in such a case.

[linay]

I've known people who do their first-clears unsynced just because they don't want a random group. It's not a common scenario, but sometimes it happens.

My point was that the cutscenes shouldn't plague us in such a case.

It's not a common scenario because there is no benefit of doing so other than a fear of grouping with random people. The roulette is already some of the longest queue in the game, so there is no need to tempt more people to do it unsynced/with preformed party by allowing them to bypass cutscenes like that. And it is already some of the easiest duties to do with random people.

[Brynne]

Love it or hate it, the roulette is doing what it's supposed to. I've gone through the story on a few alts now, and the wait time is longer than most dungeons but still not horrible. I also run this roulette on my main for exp while having lunch sometimes. It's a good way to get a ton of exp while feeding yourself.

That said...

At the minimum, I think unsynced runs should be immune to this cutscene stuff. You get no rewards from unsynced runs, and every party member has to join manually. Any new players in such a run would most likely already know what they're getting themselves into.

Agreed. There needs to be some kind of option to queue for one of these specifically with a full group and not watch cutscenes. Not within the roulette, obviously; if you use the roulette, you watch cutscenes, regardless if your party is full or not (that's why the rewards are so high - to reimburse you for your time). But queuing specifically for one of those dungeons with a full party should allow you the option to skip cutscenes somehow, and using the existing unsync option seems like the easiest way. Legitimately, some people just want to get their characters through the dungeons without having to watch the cutscenes.

[Tlachtga]

It's really funny to me how most of the people defending the cutscene change keep talking about the "massive exp rewards" (which are exaggerated a lot) and how they just "go on Netflix" or "do RL stuff"

It pretty much shows the state of MSQ roulette right now; the best way to make playing this roulette bearable is to...not actually play it.

The roulette is nothing more than a method for lazy people to gain exp without actually playing the game.

[Awha]

tbh the xp should be trippled from what it is and so should tomes since we forced 2 watch a rerun movie every q

Even if they made it so it gave two full levels worth of EXP people would still complain.

[Skivvy]

It's really funny to me how most of the people defending the cutscene change keep talking about the "massive exp rewards" (which are exaggerated a lot) and how they just "go on Netflix" or "do RL stuff"

It pretty much shows the state of MSQ roulette right now; the best way to make playing this roulette bearable is to...not actually play it.

The roulette is nothing more than a method for lazy people to gain exp without actually playing the game.

It's mindless and lazy like you said - and many people will happily do it. The plus side for new people is that there is a steady flow of willing participants to help carry them through.

What's not needed are the people who are trying to rush the CSs using some of the various tricks that are out there and potentially ruining the experience for the new-player, which is exactly what SE does not want and why they implemented this in the first place.

So if you're one of those people who can't be bothered to just wait out the CSs, simply don't queue. It's not hard to avoid.