Main Scenario Roulette streamlining suggestion

[Gemina]

I soloed both places as WAR70 with 400 ilvl gear. It seems like the 70's who went in with them didn't have appropriate gear or common sense unsynced. Unsynced should have no bearing on the players like synced does (at cap). I've run countless people from 1-60 dungeons at 70 with WAR solo (me and the other player) and have had no issues whatsoever.

Good for you, but none of this is even relevant. Who cares why they wiped. These two players avoid main story roulette like the plague, and were uninformed that the cut scenes are not skippable even when running it unsynced. It should be quite clear why they cannot be skipped even when running it unsynced, and that reason is they want players to run this content as intended. Yet this reason does not and cannot penetrate the thick-skulled. The devs understand it is a time sink, and have adjusted the rewards accordingly.

I'm not saying that ALL players are that good (or well trained in common sense), but you shouldn't be trying to keep players from doing anything unsynced unless it's relevant content.

I wasn't aware that you were making the rules. /sarcasm

[Elkanah]

Good for you, but none of this is even relevant. Who cares why they wiped. These two players avoid main story roulette like the plague, and were uninformed that the cut scenes are not skippable even when running it unsynced. It should be quite clear why they cannot be skipped even when running it unsynced, and that reason is they want players to run this content as intended. Yet this reason does not and cannot penetrate the thick-skulled. The devs understand it is a time sink, and have adjusted the rewards accordingly.


I wasn't aware that you were making the rules. /sarcasm

I'm sorry your FC has some bad players who caused that to the newbies, and didn't bother to check the live letter producer note and run tests prior till the new change (omething that everyone else did lol). Might want to consider checking your members and advising them for the future, since they don't seem to read the live letter or look around online for new information that comes to the game (lodestone is amazing for this!). Didn't say that I was the rule maker, but it's common among MMO's to keep players in content according to a routine (duty roulette) and keep the rest separate (unsynced). This isn't uncommon.

[Tlachtga]

It's really funny to me how most of the people defending the cutscene change keep talking about the "massive exp rewards" (which are exaggerated a lot) and how they just "go on Netflix" or "do RL stuff"

It pretty much shows the state of MSQ roulette right now; the best way to make playing this roulette bearable is to...not actually play it.

The roulette is nothing more than a method for lazy people to gain exp without actually playing the game.

[Skivvy]

It's really funny to me how most of the people defending the cutscene change keep talking about the "massive exp rewards" (which are exaggerated a lot) and how they just "go on Netflix" or "do RL stuff"

It pretty much shows the state of MSQ roulette right now; the best way to make playing this roulette bearable is to...not actually play it.

The roulette is nothing more than a method for lazy people to gain exp without actually playing the game.

It's mindless and lazy like you said - and many people will happily do it. The plus side for new people is that there is a steady flow of willing participants to help carry them through.

What's not needed are the people who are trying to rush the CSs using some of the various tricks that are out there and potentially ruining the experience for the new-player, which is exactly what SE does not want and why they implemented this in the first place.

So if you're one of those people who can't be bothered to just wait out the CSs, simply don't queue. It's not hard to avoid.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It's really funny to me how most of the people defending the cutscene change keep talking about the "massive exp rewards" (which are exaggerated a lot) and how they just "go on Netflix" or "do RL stuff"

It pretty much shows the state of MSQ roulette right now; the best way to make playing this roulette bearable is to...not actually play it.

The roulette is nothing more than a method for lazy people to gain exp without actually playing the game.

Alternately, it's a way for people to get exp by helping new players through the 2 least queued for story dungeons.

There's so much complaining going on by people who have completed it. You don't have to do the roulette.

It's fine the way it is. It's not even that much of a time investment. It's maybe twice as long as the average dungeon run. It's not even that bad.

[Brynne]

The roulette is nothing more than a method for lazy people to gain exp without actually playing the game.

The exp grind is pretty monotonous. I freely admit to being lazy about it. If I can get extra exp while I eat, cool.

However, the main purpose of the roulette is to get new people through the last two ARR story dungeons (and not harassed for skipping cutscenes in the process), and it's doing that. I feel like if SE added it to the trust system that'd probably be better, but for now it's at least somewhat functional. I doubt they'll touch it at this point.

[linay]

It's really funny to me how most of the people defending the cutscene change keep talking about the "massive exp rewards" (which are exaggerated a lot) and how they just "go on Netflix" or "do RL stuff"

It pretty much shows the state of MSQ roulette right now; the best way to make playing this roulette bearable is to...not actually play it.

The roulette is nothing more than a method for lazy people to gain exp without actually playing the game.

What do you mean not playing? Letting a cutscene run its course is part of the game. It's not like you're having to push buttons while it's playing. If you can multitask during cutscenes, then more to you as that's staying productive with your time and not being lazy.

[Elkanah]

The dungeon itself being un-skippable for roulette, you know, I'll get behind that. I think it's fair since they increased the rewards for exp and tomes, so you'd need to put about 56 minutes exactly into it. (It was 56 min with a fully geared out party of 7 players in ilvl 300+ gear and 1 new member of our fc who was just coming into the msq storyline with essentially relic gear at level).

The main issue I have with this is the UNCAPPED and UNSYNCED version. Someone please for the love of god tell me WHY THIS is ALSO unskippable?? Synced and roulette I'm fine with. But unsynced? Is a giant middle finger to everyone.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The dungeon itself being un-skippable for roulette, you know, I'll get behind that. I think it's fair since they increased the rewards for exp and tomes, so you'd need to put about 56 minutes exactly into it. (It was 56 min with a fully geared out party of 7 players in ilvl 300+ gear and 1 new member of our fc who was just coming into the msq storyline with essentially relic gear at level).

The main issue I have with this is the UNCAPPED and UNSYNCED version. Someone please for the love of god tell me WHY THIS is ALSO unskippable?? Synced and roulette I'm fine with. But unsynced? Is a giant middle finger to everyone.

Probably because the roulette just pulls the dungeons. None of them are modified. To do this they'd have to have 2 seperate sets of instances. More work than its worth.

[Elkanah]

To do this they'd have to have 2 seperate sets of instances. More work than its worth.

That's probably the honest to grated cheese truth that hurts the most. rip