Final Thoughts

[Liam_Harper]

I have never, in my entire time playing FF14, seen anyone accuse someone else of being a bad player for not using a parser or a hunt radar. I've gone through a few hundred EX primal kills and haven't even seen a parser mentioned, let alone abuse over it, despite the fact half these seem to go onto fflogs.

A lot of the time the toxicity is from a player consistently doing half of what a player in the bottom 10% for their class should do and getting aggressive over advice.

I would actually like to see Enix really enforce their ToS, completely block ACT and fflogs, if only to highlight from the mass-quitting how much players actually prefer to have this sort of information for self improvement and raid leading, particularly at the high end.

[Thoosa]

It would be nice if they could make it so that the training dummies gave me an actual dps number, like the ones in ESO do, so I could improve, plus I don’t play on pc.

[Vidu]

Have they added any parsing tools in game yet. If not there is a statement from 2017 that says you can be banned for using them. That its against tos. Reason he was afraid if ones used them they would become toxic.

If you're asking about any parsing tools at all, then: Yes, they kinda have in the form of PvP-match-statistics.

They have stated on multiple occassions though that they dont plan to add a PvE-parser, aka the thing most of us are refering to when we're talking about parsing.
They are okay with them though as long as they're not being used to harrass people. Yoshi-P is well aware of the purpose to the outright need that parsing has.

[Melichoir]

Just a quick reminder: Parsers are against the ToS.

Also a quick reminder: It's SE's ToS, so they can enforce it (or not enforce it) as they see fit.

Or in short, just 'cause it's in the ToS doesnt mean SE will ban you for it. It's their rules, their game, their product. They dont enforce everything in the ToS 100% for practical reasons, but they want things in the ToS to be there so in case they want to get rid of you, there are rules in place for them to justify it. Most notably if you start harassing other players with Parse numbers.

[Colino]

It may depend on the server, but there are some servers that have certain markets that have been destroyed by the crafting/gathering bots - either current consumables or current crafted gear.

I'm not condoning it at all and there is no question that gather bots have done a lot of bad things to influence the in-game economy, but I would be a big fat liar if I said I don't appreciate super cheap shards/crystals/clusters (no guarantee I bought them from botters, but come on)

I have never, in my entire time playing FF14, seen anyone accuse someone else of being a bad player for not using a parser or a hunt radar.

Same, and I've been at it since September 2010. That being said I won't claim it's never happened because it certainly has happened to someone. I'm not sure it's as frequent and wide-spread as OP implied though.

[Alucard135]

I'm not sure it's as frequent and wide-spread as OP implied though.

OP's main issue is that people around him are using parsers (and discord bots), as you can see from his previous threads. And he considers that to be cheating, even though a lot told him that Yoshi P himself said parsers are not cheating. He refused to acknowledged that and ignored those saying so. So I'm guessing those he say called him a bad player are players he might have tried to force them not to use a parser around him, which can easily result in them kicking him out to save themselves any further drama.

[Videra]

This will be my last post, I'm done with the game. Some thoughts...

For all of you that cheat and use parsers, and hunt radars, gathering bots, etc... and then have the gall to tell others they are not good players because they don't... enjoy your toxicity.

For SE.. maybe trying actually enforcing your ToS?

So much of the community in this game just openly brags and craps on others that refuse to cheat as being bad players that don't "want to get better." And SE... does absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.

Bye.

I actually didn't know hunt radars were a thing, but parsing is quite possibly one of the most important things that can be done in this game. With such a big focus on DPS, knowing how much DPS you're putting out relative to your potential and the DPS required? It's important. Parsing is a necessity in almost every MMO because of this, and the fact Square Enix still won't produce a proper addon API becuase 'parsing bad' is annoying.

Also, how do I make bait like this? I know I just took it, but that was masterful.

[van_arn]

This will be my last post, I'm done with the game. Some thoughts...

For all of you that cheat and use parsers, and hunt radars, gathering bots, etc... and then have the gall to tell others they are not good players because they don't... enjoy your toxicity.

For SE.. maybe trying actually enforcing your ToS?

So much of the community in this game just openly brags and craps on others that refuse to cheat as being bad players that don't "want to get better." And SE... does absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.

Bye.

I actually laughed while reading this.

Wee woo call the parsing police!

[SannaR]

I also doubt the OP tried to find or make an all ps4 raid group as was suggested by a few in one of his threads. Though even in a group like that you can tell how bad dps is just by how slow the fight is taking just not who or why. For example I helped out an FC mate on the burn and both the first and last bosses went on longer than they normally do with good dps. Heck we even wiped on the last boss because we didn't make the dps check. Made it on round two but even then it just felt slow to me and because I play on the ps4 I couldn't say anything more than in FC chat that everyone focusing on the same add was dumb.

Though the OP did seem to really want to die on a I don't want to cheat even if I have no clue I'm doing so because someone else is hill. Like you won't know if something you buy off the market board was gotten by a bot or if you got parsed unless you get told about it or actually check fflogs.

[Johaandr]

Im on ps4. I create my own tunnel vision and i dont have parse to do callouts.. can i brag about it?