Final Thoughts

[supergiz]

Aren't the RMT gathering bots almost always a new account where the only jobs they have are gatherers and they've done nothing else?

There has to be a solution that involves automatically flagging accounts like that for the moderation team to monitor

Edit: To post above me. I played FFXI a lot and while you have a point on player toxicity, the RMT bots were out of control on there and ruined many marketplaces. I don't see the same thing happening in FFXIV.

[HyoMinPark]

Edit: To post above me. I played FFXI a lot and while you have a point on player toxicity, the RMT bots were out of control on there and ruined many marketplaces. I don't see the same thing happening in FFXIV.

It may depend on the server, but there are some servers that have certain markets that have been destroyed by the crafting/gathering bots - either current consumables or current crafted gear.

[Colino]

It may depend on the server, but there are some servers that have certain markets that have been destroyed by the crafting/gathering bots - either current consumables or current crafted gear.

I'm not condoning it at all and there is no question that gather bots have done a lot of bad things to influence the in-game economy, but I would be a big fat liar if I said I don't appreciate super cheap shards/crystals/clusters (no guarantee I bought them from botters, but come on)

I have never, in my entire time playing FF14, seen anyone accuse someone else of being a bad player for not using a parser or a hunt radar.

Same, and I've been at it since September 2010. That being said I won't claim it's never happened because it certainly has happened to someone. I'm not sure it's as frequent and wide-spread as OP implied though.

[Alucard135]

I'm not sure it's as frequent and wide-spread as OP implied though.

OP's main issue is that people around him are using parsers (and discord bots), as you can see from his previous threads. And he considers that to be cheating, even though a lot told him that Yoshi P himself said parsers are not cheating. He refused to acknowledged that and ignored those saying so. So I'm guessing those he say called him a bad player are players he might have tried to force them not to use a parser around him, which can easily result in them kicking him out to save themselves any further drama.

[HyoMinPark]

I'm not condoning it at all and there is no question that gather bots have done a lot of bad things to influence the in-game economy, but I would be a big fat liar if I said I don't appreciate super cheap shards/crystals/clusters (no guarantee I bought them from botters, but come on)

Shards are one thing - I was mostly referring to current, high-level mats; especially things like aethersands. That market was destroyed by gathering bots on my server before they were ever purchasable with scrips. Same with current consumables - both food and pots. I know there are also servers where the crafted gear market (e.g., i380 stuff) has been destroyed by people who use bots.

When I buy consumables, I actually pay more to not buy from those I know use botting services to mass craft things.

[KageTokage]

When I buy consumables, I actually pay more to not buy from those I know use botting services to mass craft things.

TBH, this is one of the main things I'm looking forward to about world travel.

Now I can go buy infusions/gear when I feel lazy without having to give money to cheaters, and I honestly hope people start making community-formed lists of the bot farmers on their servers for this purpose (I've already made a mental note of all the big names on Cactuar...).